we have several of the candidates here beginning with joseph tham. the format is the same talk about your background how it relates to this position. if there are questions of the committee i will direct them to you. thank you for being here. >> good afternoon my name is joseph tham. i was on board from 2002-2011, i finished 12 years at the puc, i am retired now. i have been in the real estate business as a sales, appraiser, certified general appraiser; sales since 1983, appraiser since 1987. on the board since 2002. i want to continue my public service i have been involved with the glbt and chinese community. i want to continue public service and hope to continue my service on the board. i am seeking one of the two vacancies, seat 2 and 5. either one of those. >> i want to clarify again, although this is already in your record, but for the sake of the public that you have a minimum five years professional experience in the state and one of the areas listed as an area of expertise. >>yes, i've sat in board 1 and 2, and hearing officer during the nine