on the basis of the work of the jewish historian josephus, i believe that can be placed in the year 21. that is the reason for which i allow a longer period for jesus' development as a teacher and for his interaction with other followers. >> do you take the view that jesus was 100% human? >> i think he was certainly 100% human. >> you take the view he was 100% divine. >> equally so. >> he has a dual nature. >> that's right. >> he stands alone in that regard. >> this is classic crystal logical thinking according to which anything we say about jesus has to make sense about man. >> you have 19-year-old who is had 100% human and vig gore russ. comes from a rural environment, carpenter. therefore, he has all of the neurological and other apparatus of a perfectly healthy male in the presence of extremely sensous woman who is seeking his support. admires him greatly because of his reputation. you don't think there are grounds for thinking this pass beyond a platonic relationship. >> there are certainly grounds for thinking that. let me offer you two cautions. one is if they are going to be a