josephus daniel of josephus daniels was the secretary of the navy during world war one era. before that, 1898. he's very instrumental and overthrowing an interracial government in north carolina. it's a wilmington massacre. you know, the parties were a little bit different. the political parties were a bit different than they were now. so when democrats were in power, a lot of white southerners were democrats. and so they needed really to pass any policies they had to really cater to a lot of southern politicians to get any bills that they went through and that meant sometimes something like, let's say the gi bill, for example federal policy, but they leave the implementation up to it to local and state authorities. so that means that the southerners white southerners ultimately decide who the benefits of the gi bill, which is why you see some of these disparities after world two, because even though the policy is race neutral on its face the implementation does not. does that answer your question? well yeah. and the reason i'm asking because i just saw i am pretty sure that

, jewish history called josephus, and he writes about jesus . has been edited by christians. so we have to be a little bit careful about it. but we're pretty sure that he did write something about jesus. what did you think? it was interesting hearing john cleese talk bond . talk to helen bond. >> yeah, about christianity and about about the origins of it. and about the life of jesus. well, i didn't realise is, was that there's a lot evidence that there's a lot of evidence that there's a lot of evidence that jesus did actually exist as a figure. not a historical figure. so it's not just stories and just all about the stories and about the parables and about the you and about what the you know, and about what the meaning of the gospels. it's about him as human being in history. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but how important is that? and most important thing is what people believe now. people believe in right now. i know about that. i studied know all about that. i studied that when i was uni. did you? that when i was at uni. did you? well before uni i stu

absolutely the same time, but from about sort of 60 years later, there's a jewish historian called josephus and he writes about jesus . the , and he writes about jesus. the passage has been edited by christians. so we have to be a little bit careful about it. but we're pretty sure that he did write something about jesus, and he was a jewish historian, a jewish historian . he's got no jewish historian. he's got no particular axe to grind about christianity. he just lists it in, in amongst a sort of a series of tumults and problems that happened when pontius pilate was governor. and then within a century of the life of jesus, we have roman writers mentioning him. so we have tacitus, we have pliny mentioning christian. >> are they saying, well, tacitus, he he says that jesus was was executed. >> he suffered the supreme punishment. crucify fiction under pontius pilate. and he's actually interested in in christians, in, in rome under nero. so that's what he's telling us about. but just as a sort of side line, an intro, he just mentions jesus. >> there's all this evidence that's not from inside t