gold rooms, josh dawsey.go is in its own reality, its own bubble. >> what's striking is that he has hordes of people who surround him, a lot of them paying to be there, either working for him or paying to be there or in fund-raisers there. he basks in adulation. every time he walks in the room everyone stands up and cheers. when he leaves, everyone stands up and cheers. his presidency was a quite polarizing presidency. he had loyal supporters but struggled to convert independents and moderates and others. that's why he was a one-term president. but down there, everyone around him loves him. it's kind of a surreal place to be where everybody in every room, he is the center of the universe there. >> are his media exposures still controlled as reported when he was inside the white house? do you know anything about what he's reading or watching the kind of build on this bubble that he lives in in mar-a-lago surrounded by people that only support him? >> he still consumes a lot of news. even though he's off twitte

in a brand-new interview with josh dawsey of the "washington post," the twice impeached ex-president the angry, violent mob of his supporters who descended on the capitol and abused capitol police officers. in fact, his revision is that in hindsight, he wished he'd been able to join them. quote, trump said he deserved more credit and that he pressed to march on the capitol with his supporters but was stopped by his security detail. quote, secret service said i couldn't go. i would have gone there in a minute, he said. yeah. when asked about the seven-plus hour gap in the white house phone logs from that day, trump said this. quote, he remembered talking to house minority leader kevin mccarthy, congressman jim jordan and other people during that period. he said he had a, quote, very good memory but could not say exactly who he talked to that afternoon or when, later adding, why would i care about who called me? if congressmen were calling me, what difference did it make? there was nothing secretive about it. there was no secret. i'll say. apparently there was, though, right? there alw

political investigative reporter for the "washington post" josh dawsey.ressional reporter for the "washington post" mariana sotomayor. before we get into the twists and turns of all the mccarthy audio, we just heard from president biden for the first time. i want to play what he just said. >> this ain't your father's republican party. not a joke. all you've got to do is look what's being played this morning about the tape that was release ed an way. but all kidding aside. this is the maga party now. >> the president anywaying himself out of what i suspect would have been even more interesting commentary there. mariana, you and your colleagues have new reporting now on how former president trump is responding to this audio recording of house republican leader mccarthy. let's listen to mccarthy first, then talk about trump's response. >> the only discussion i would have with him is that i think this will pass and it would be my recommendation you should resign. i mean that would be my take, but i don't think he would take it. but i don't know. >> so mariana

>> committee chairman bennie thompson was talking about the former president's comments to josh dawsey their mind but it has restarted the supremacy in his committee. they said they don't need the president to run. he said they have over 800 interviews that are probably more accurate than what the president would say anyways. i think the interview yesterday has caused them to have it under discussion right now. obviously the president sort of expressed a willingness to come depending on what the subject would be is how he phrased it and he provided new information, that he actually wanted to walk to the capitol with his supporters. you know, the committee is running out of time. they have about a month left before they start hearings and then you have a wrap up a bunch of important depositions and interviews before then. so they've got to come to a decision rather quickly. >> "the washington post's" jackie alemany. thank you so much for your reporting on this friday morning. >>> congresswoman mikie sherrill of new jersey, thank you very much for being here. thanks for your service. >>