to discuss, bloomberg's josh eidelson. one of the reporters who broke this story. s through a number. what are they actually doing? josh: people are employed at google without being legally employed by google, doing things like writing code, managing teams, cleaning the building. emily: they are legally employed, just not full-time google employees, right? josh: many of these people are employed, but they are employed by an outside company, what we call subcontracted workers. they have, for example, the minimum wage. they have the ability to unionize but with this outside company, not google itself. emily: google is a business, they have a bottom line just like anybody else. should we expect them to be more generous than other companies? should we expect them not to employ so many contractors? josh: what google would say is they have an expectation that everyone in their community gets treated with care and respect, and they have a supplier code of conduct, and they are able to ramp up and down people working on particular project because of this. emily: you've foun