josh gardner, your honor, this is mr. gardner. i want to back up just a step and say i've been with the united states department of justice for 16 years through multiple administrations and i have also endeavored to be as candid as possible with the court. that was my best understanding of the state of affairs. the president's position on this issue like the plaintiffs -- excuse me. my best understanding of the state of affairs. i do not have a deep understanding of what that means at this juncture other than what the president has tweeted. but obviously, as you can imagine, i am doing my absolute best to figure out what's going on. i can tell you that i have confirmed that the census bureau is continuing with the process of printing the questionnaire without a citizenship question and that process has not stopped. the judge says, all right. well, i'll hear from plaintiff's counsel. and the lawyer for the plaintiff speaks. your honor, i think this underscores, obviously, the need for a stipulated order, as we talked about yesterda