sopa being passed so what does this all mean for the future of internet freedom in america while josh harkin's a reporter for mother jones magazine joins me now to deeper into this thanks for coming on the show josh so i understand you talked to some of the anonymous hackers in the chat rooms while this was all going down tog give us kind of the inside scoop on what was happening. well it was just sitting and watch it unfold in real time i mean you know there are dolls and people all over the world who participate in these chat rooms when i was there i was in this chat room for this anonymous splinter group known and it's in on ops where i think at any given time there were between a thousand and two thousand people who were logged in and coordinating with each other to launch these denial of service attacks or g.o.'s attacks on various websites around the country and they were giving each other updates particularly about the f.b.i. website which i think was their main target and you know people were were messaging that it was down in hungary or it was done in belgium or it was young malaysia