josh holly, who is a clown by the way, i want to be clear. running josh. josh holly just tweeted that biden has to answer questions because there is a rumor that ukraine blew up the pipelines. i don't know if they did, if they did, good. but josh holly was also attacking biden for not being harsh enough against germany before nord stream 2 was canceled. there is no principal. the principle is we surround donald trump. donald trump is our man. whatever he wants we will be for it at that moment and also let's own the liberal. it is a party that relies on a cultural fight and not policy. i have not gotten rid of the title republican because once you do that, as a republican criticizing the republican party i have much more authority. once i said that people do not listen to me. there has to be normal republicans fighting for the future of the party. i did not vote republican last election and i do not intend to vote it this election. there is one issue on the ballot and that is democracy and that is the only issue in 2024. >> there is a lot to get through on

count on a house of representatives led by someone like mike johnson to stop the president, or josh holly or others to stop him. >> surely, this is a focus of the republican debate wednesday night or not. >> i mean, you would think so, but you not seen the republican rivals to go to this directly, and this is going to donald trump pitching them to himself, and many like it, and many see his presidency as stymied by the checks and balances, and see him as someone who can finish the job, but going outside of the norms of legislating that we have seen consistently, and congresswoman cheney is correct to call it out, because this is the evidence that we have seen from donald trump since day one, and he is not going to be deferential to the democratic norms or the checks and balances, but what is important about the trump campaign, they are strategic of infusing the trump campaign with state parties that are supportive of his every move, so not only donald trump at the top of the ticket to push these policies is, but a trump ticket from top to bottom that is his, and so at this point, you can'

you can't count on a senate, josh holly, mike lee, to stop donald trump >> i want to ask you about thatrole in misleading other members of your party. and now this mike johnson is speaker of the house what did you think when you saw this >> i think it is dangerous for the country. i think that many of them did not understand in detail the role that he played. you know, mike was a friend of mine we served and were elected together but mike consistently throughout this postelection period was suggesting things that he knew to have no basis in fact, no basis in law, no basis in the constitution, and advocating that members of the house get on board with helping donald trump to overturn the election >> if we were to rerun the exact same scenario that happened in 2020, that happened in 2024 with mike johnson with the speaker's gavel, what do you think would happen >> i think it is too dangerous to even contemplate going down that path partly because they'vy you know, what happened in 2020 and january 2021 in many ways they can look at as a practice run, and they know now what it would take,

you can't count on a senate of josh hollies and mike lees to stop him. >> you're liz cheney. you were previously known as one of the most conservative members of congress. you're the daughter of former vice president dick cheney, and you're saying it would be safer for the country if republicans weren't in control of the house. >> i think what we've seen is you cannot count on this group of republicans to uphold their oath to the constitution. but people need to come together across party lines -- republicans, democrats, independents -- to stand for if constitution. that's why this election is so crucially important. >> liz cheney is probably no less conservative, probably more conservative than she ever was. she's not changed her ideology on a single thing except for the fact that donald trump is dangerous for this country. >> she's probably more conservative than donald trump, let's be honest. >> correct. >> she's not wrong. there will be no checks and balances. the supreme court is in his favor, so if he wants to put in executive orders with legal challenges, he'll probabl

those republicans, a house with republicans like mike johnson, a senate with people like josh holly and in this regard is he will not abide by the rulings of the courts. i think people really need to pause and think about what that means. a president who won't enforce court rulings with which he disagrees, as soon as that happens, then people need to recognize immediately, you know, we are unraveling the fundamental structures and systems that make us a nation of laws. and so there won't be any guard rails to stop him. >> so liz, what do you say to people who, who accuse you, me, a lot of us of, of, just catastrophizing, being hysterical when we bring up the fact that he's talking about terminating the constitution, assassinating generals that disagree with him, taking tv networks off that he disagrees with, jailing immediately those that he opposes, former lawyers that have been insufficiently loyal, what do you -- how do you explain to your friends, your former allies, and other skeptics that this is a decision between democracy and authoritarianism in 2024? >> well, i think that you

josh: thank you, mr. love prince. appreciate that. back to our panelists now and holly raymer from the associated press. holly: president biden who finished fifth in the new hampshire primary four years ago is skipping at this time to comply with the d.n.c.'s changes to nominating calendar and secretary scanlon said the florida democrats are scrapping their primary altogether. what do you make of these moves and the process by which we choose the nominees? >> nonsense. it's bullshit, really. josh: be respectful to the crowd, folks. >> new hampshire had the primary first, a little state and a lot of people can get in, it's awesome and you see the open ideas to see who stands a chance of winning. i think what you're trying to do is go to the turf that's safe for him and he's trying it that way to push people out. and he was the one that alluded to passing the baton potentially, right? he's not ready to do that and his numbers are abysmal. so he should allow for new generation to come up and run this country and he's not doing that and it's not for our country. josh: for those who agree with mr. rist, plea

josh: thank you, mr. love prince. appreciate that. back to our panelists now and holly raymer from the associated press. holly: president biden who finished fifth in the new hampshire primary four years ago is skipping at this time to comply with the d.n.c.'s changes to nominating calendar and secretary scanlon said the florida democrats are scrapping their primary altogether. what do you make of these moves and the process by which we choose the nominees? >> nonsense. it's bullshit, really. josh: be respectful to the crowd, folks. >> new hampshire had the primary first, a little state and a lot of people can get in, it's awesome and you see the open ideas to see who stands a chance of winning. i think what you're trying to do is go to the turf that's safe for him and he's trying it that way to push people out. and he was the one that alluded to passing the baton potentially, right? he's not ready to do that and his numbers are abysmal. so he should allow for new generation to come up and run this country and he's not doing that and it's not for our country. josh: for those who agree with mr. rist, plea