josh kaufman is in the same vein.he is a lawyer who has worked on the computer and cyber side of the world, works on arts and entertainment. has substantive knowledge in each of these arenas. he worked for 10 years, involved with the arts and entertainment world are so he brings real substance, real context to his work as an attorney. so josh, we welcome you on behalf of of the institute to our party. [applause] >> it's a real pleasure. jon and i go back about 30 years. i told john, it doesn't matter, the first deals with npr,. [inaudible] i've been on the board of earning matters since its inception. and although i'm not in the education field, my contributions have generally been more on the entertainment side of the business, i have been so impressed with john earning matters over the years. i've heard from a lot of people in the media, and the balance in the quality of what learning matters presents has presented for 30 years now, to me one of the most amazing things. you see a piece of learning matters and it is