it was created to sell obamacare plans by josh kushner. it is an insurance company.vvy. you are going to book an appointment through an iphone app, text with a nurse, talk to a doctor. it is almost $750 million from big investors and the kushner family. the demand for a obamacare plans has not been what people expected. that put the company in a difficult position. the election of donald trump makes things crazy. oliver: i remember this company. i saw their ads everywhere on the subway. greats were pretty but there has been a fall from grace here. what do they need to do to make this work with obamacare potentially undergoing major changes and potentially a repeal? is it dependent on obamacare? >> what i learned is it is hard to start an insurance company. make sense. if you do not have many members, it makes it hard to negotiate with providers. insurance companies make money by going to a hospital and getting a good deal. oscar was not able to do that. enrollments were not high. they were losing money. the interesting thing is what oscar is banking on is that trumpc

. >> josh kushner is the younger liberal brother to jared kushner. he is married to a supermodel.teresting. it was founded in the idealistic idea of obamacare. it was created to sell obamacare plans by josh kushner. it is an insurance company. it's all about tech savvy. you are going to book an appointment through an iphone app, text with a nurse, talk to a doctor. they raised almost $750 million from big investors and the kushner family. the demand for a obamacare plans has not been what people expected. that put the company in a difficult position. the election of donald trump makes things crazy. oliver: i remember this company. anybody who rode in new york subway saw their ads everywhere. there has been a fall from grace here. what do they need to do to make this work with obamacare potentially undergoing major changes and potentially a repeal? is it dependent on obamacare? >> what i learned is it is hard to start an insurance company. now that i think about it, it make sense. if you do not have many members, it makes it hard to negotiate with providers. insurance companies mak

was lost after the passage of the formal care act by none other than jared kushner's brother, josh kushnerinesses, oscar insurance was supposed to solve a problem to make it easier for people to get insurance and understand how it works. >> right. aey positioned it as tech-savvy insurance company, so you would book points on your iphone, text the doctor, and it would come together under the obama care exchanges. especially during the aftermath of the affordable care act come it looked like an amazing business and he raised a ton of money. >> they raised a ton of money, but it soon started struggling and is lost money since then. >> they have lost one and three hundred million dollars since january, 2014. they did not get the membership they wanted. the other thing is it is hard to make money and health insurance. >> so what now? how much other businesses tied to the health of the exchanges? they are not the only ones that cannot get the sign-ups expected. further?hat weakened dependent onostly exchanges still, and what is interesting is the are expanding. while anthem just pulled out of oh

josh, thank you. and speaking of jared kushner, he just spoke moments ago wrapping up with tech ceos.he first time we're hearing from him since being named the white house -- >> i've found exactly the opposite. to date, we've been working with talented civil servants, men and women who want to see their government do better. we have challenged ourselves to pursue change that mr. provide utility to americans far beyond our tenure here. together, we have set ambitious goals to tackle our objectives. it's working and it's very exciting. we began by analyzing and auditing our current infrastructure. it turns out that federal agencies collectively operate 6,100 data centers. the vast majority of which can be consolidated and migrated to the cloud, something a lot of you know about. many of our system is decades old with the oldest being 56 years old. the 1980 paperwork reduction act designed to make government more efficient but also established before the government used computers still has domain over every form published online. this requires a six-month review and an interagency proces

josh, i want to put that screen back up that peter just referenced. this is the kushner> yeah. it's pretty substantial. >> opioid epidemic, overhauling government bureaucracy, va improvements and chinese diplomacy. when you see that list, what's your reaction? >> probably one of those is more than he can handle on his own. i think donald trump has an idea that running the government is you go into a room and make the deal and get out. it goes back to the way that he ran his business for decades. if you read "the art of the deal," he's talking about this luxury hotel that was to be built in moscow that never got done. even back in that smaller scale when he had that ambition, you make the deal and the details work out, that didn't necessarily work. i think in government where things are much more complicated, it's an understatement to say that the israelis take a great deal to agree that it's nice to have a deal that works for everybody. so i think it sort of represents something that we've seen broadly in this administration. basically, that the president does not unders

jared kushner's brother josh was one of the founders of financiers of oscar.it make your job in washington easier or harder? how does it work >> it really has no impact you know i'm spending a lot of time with people on the hill talking about what's going on. this is about major national policy i know in the media business -- >> i've got to ask >> i get it. >> people want to know >> no, no, i get it and i understand it. but this is really about health care policy over 20 million americans. and just one point that's really important in terms of what we're doing here, every member of oscar, if you're a member of oscar insurance, you have a concierge team, four people including a nurse who are personal to you. they know becky. they know andrew cleveland clinic works in care teams. it's no longer the doctor, it's the individual those care teams connect in to our concierge teams is what makes this so seamless so much knowledge we share so much better for the individual customer. >> no question i guess the question becomes how many of those types of hospitals do we

kushner attempted to set up the back channel to communicate with russian president vladimir putin. >> let's bring in michael moore, former u.s. attorney for the district of georgia and of course political analyst josh r ogen. good morning to you. james comey was asked point blank, why do you think you were fired? here's his response. >> the president said i had dinner with him. he wanted to have dinner because he wanted to stay on. is this an accurate statement? >> no, sir. >> in one case i called him and in one case he called me. is that an accurate statement? >> no. >> did you ever call the president. >> no. >> and in the press conference on may 18th the president asked whether he had urged you to shutdown the investigation into michael flynn the president responded quote, no, no, next question. is that an accurate statement? >> i don't believe it is. >> you guys know that comey said that he believed that the president wanted to put pressure on him to try to change the way the russian investigation was going and something the president admitted in an interview. what would it take for that kind of political pressure to cross the line and become obstruction of justice. >> >> that's something he wil

bottom of it with the kushner family and anyone else in the government bound by the emoluments clause and that's what we asked a federal judges to look at and the house and senate joshicz committees ought to be looking at this as well. if they don't want to do it as well, i'm going to want to throw everyone out. democrat or republican if they're not going to make sure that our president adheres to the constitution. >> richard painter who never lacks for passion and andrew, i'll give you 15 seconds for the last word. most surprising thing you came across in your reporting? >> i think the most surprising thing i came across is how few laws actually do bind the president when it comes to ethics. when he says that he is above conflict of interest laws he is which is why this case is important because it is one of the few checks that there is on the president when it comes to balancing his public and private business. >> we'd like to have you both back. this is not going away. gentlemen, thank you both. andrew and richard tonight. coming up, it was described by a "new york times" reporters as one of the most exquisitely awkward public events he had ever seen. it happened