>> yes, because that was actually the former chief of staff for lapierre at one point, josh powell, and he is, as part of that settlement, going to testify in this case. so likely his testimony will probably be detrimental towards wayne lapierre and other members of leadership. >> how do you see this lawsuit -- and of course, you know, we will see how it all plays out. how will it affect the nra's lobbying power and its impact on the 2024 election? >> i mean, i think that this has drug on for almost five years now and it's going to have an impact regardless of the outcome of this case, even if the nra wins on the points that it's putting out which the nra says it's reformed and punished the people that were responsible for a lot of these issues, but as i mentioned they've actually lost a million members, more than a million members, so their finances are way down. they spent 50 plus million dollars in 2016 and they've only spent half of that the next year -- the next election cycle and they probably won't be able to even do that this time around. >> and what about lapierre and his futur