of being out on the trail with actual candidates he has largely left those races alone the new josh sapirunning and they have been allowed to run their own races and to put themselves in a good position. so you see a lot of campaign style events from j biden but not necessarily on the campaign trail. >> coming back to this week in washington dc it's an effort b to get the government shutdown to get a new funding bill b ghfriday at midnight. how engaged i thehite house are we expecting we expecting them to come to capitol hill to engage in this discussion? >> i would characterize as more behind the scenes what they have learned from legislativsuccesses you have nato let the senate and congress do their own thing. the good news is there's no risk in tes of a government shutdown so what will be and itt's permitting that reform joe mansion to get in there that is the deal that he cut with chuck schumer one month ago is something white house moderating closely maybe we see sell my house officials on capitol hill but not something bin is driving he's putting his trust and democratic leaders on