if it's not josh shapiro they will have not picked him out of anti-semitism. previewing a little of what we're going to hear. shapiro, an a.p. headline. i was young, just 13, apologizes for having an israel themed barmitzva. >> gillian: two weeks ago we were told by the white house and the biden campaign that he went to bed one night determined to stay in the race, 100%, woke up the following day, made the decision, announced two hours later to the american people. now we're being told that as of two hours ago, vice president harris had not chosen her running mate. she made the decision about a half hour later. we're now confirming that decision. does any of this square with your knowledge about campaigns and politics and how stuff actually works? it seems suspect to me. to say the least. >> it was a last minute decision. trump made a last minute decision in vance. he had it in his mind kind of who he want ed but it was a day of decision and he made the call to vance and he missed the call on the plane. so the story goes. this morning i do think there is a ques

>> so josh shapiro is the strong. he is the, you know, michael, they always say when people selected an athlete in the draft, we pick the best athlete available in the draft. josh shapiro is the best political athlete in this draft class, period, full full-stop, gifted order, great guy, moderate he is he's definitely the strongest pick. >> however, comma that being said, you talked about this earlier in your show and i've heard you speak about it before. the democratic party has an anti-semitism problem, they have a huge problem with anti-semitism in their, in their progressive wing. and query, does josh shapiro's pick, does that cost them the state of michigan? i don't know. i don't know what their internal numbers look like. look, i think mark kelly, you know, michael, i went to west point, a military guy served in combat and mike, mark kelly, i agree with tear on. this is a very strong pick from that perspective david, the numbers, but real quickly, yeah the ai sense that you don't know what today's poll question i

, josh shapiro there in philadelphia.what are you hearing from democrats about what they are making of tim walz as the pick. julia: most democrats i talk to are very excited about tim walz. they look at josh shapiro and tim walz as two people that would have been great to balance out the ticket for kamala harris. i believe nomia in her package talk to that -- talked about how harris comes from california and getting someone from the blue wall of the united states that midwestern part, going into pennsylvania would have been helpful to her. however, a lot of progressives over the past three to four days, particularly pro-palestine progressives, were really hittg josh shapiro over his stances on israel, which quite frankly aren't terribly different from tim walz's stance on israel, and josh shapiro's response to some of the pro-palestinian protests that took place following october 7 in pennsylvania. there has been chatter among democrats as to whether this is anti-semitism, because we do know that josh shapiro is an observ

does it appear that josh shapiro was too conservative for kamala harris? >> i think so because look, kamala harris has always believed in the most radical positions possible. when she was in the senate she co-sponsored the green new deal. co-sponsored universal healthcare using medicaid, the bernie sanders plan, which would have been disastrous for private health insurance and taken away private health insurance from 150 million americans. you know what she did with the southern border, completely radical and out of control. kamala -- there is a reason why she won't answer questions, day 16 and there has been not one question and answer session with kamala harris and the press? because they're trying to hide her radicalism the same way nancy pelosi is trying to hide the radicalism of tim walz. because he was the chair of veterans affairs? so what. that doesn't mean anything. what matters is what did you do when you were a governor? what matters what did kamala harris do when she was vice president and united states senator. this is dangerous liberal ticket

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"i hear you" would have been josh shapiro. she chose "i ignore you."omeone who wants century cities, to enable illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses, at a time when the majority say we want a border wall, including 42% of latinos in an axios poll in april. at a time when the majority say that we want mass deportation. and you choose the guy he was giving out drivers licenses to illegal immigrants? this is a big middle finger to the american people. "i'm going to admit because i've got the media. i don't care what you say." that's the message she sent with tim walz. >> harris: there was this idea, bill, that maybe mark kelly wouldn't be recognizable enough. how recognizable is tim walz outside of his far left politics? >> bill: i think yesterday's introduction into philadelphia was a bio for both of them. she basically said we will give you a choice to vote. i think the phrase was "freedom to vote." we are going to give you the chance to love who you want to love and we are going to give you the option to choose one comes to abortion. that was abou

, and also with older voters, and kamala harris has a much closer relationship personally with josh shapirolationship personally with josh shapiro and they both served as attorney general, but tim you have to believe, this would be the capstone of his career as vice president —— tim walz. i do not see him running for president so his whole mission will be to support kamala harris and that is something you have to believe, if kamala harris prevails, that is something she would need and want. as the first woman president, the first woman president of colour as well, there is a premium on that. interesting point. talk about how tim walz lines up againstjd vance, donald trump's vice presidential pick. donald trump's vice presidential ick. ~ ., , , donald trump's vice presidential ick. ~ . , , ., donald trump's vice presidential ick. ~ ., , , ., ., pick. tim walz brings a lifetime of exnerience _ pick. tim walz brings a lifetime of exnerience in _ pick. tim walz brings a lifetime of experience in public _ pick. tim walz brings a lifetime of experience in public service, i pick. tim walz brings a

. >> and josh shapiro, josh shapiro, josh shapiro for vice president. now, we need you.orter: the vied owe is not a leaked announcement and the mayor was supporting the pennsylvania governor josh shapiro potential vice presidential candidacy and the campaign saying "we don't expect to have updates till the vice president announces who will be serving as her running mate and next vice president of the united states. harris is plan ago battleground state blitz with her vp next week with campaign events scheduled in pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, north carolina, georgia, arizona, and nevada. guys, back to you. rachel: thank you. meanwhile donald trump weighing in on the choice potentially it looks like. we don't know for sure of pennsylvania governor josh shapiro. he said there's some pluses and minuses for her. listen. >> i don't care. let them do whatever. they still want to have open boarders. if she picks shapiro, you'll lose the palestinian vote, and that's fine. everybody has their liables. i think if she picks shapiro, and loses middle palestinian base because th

so what is josh shapiro, do? he runs a little bit stronger in these white working class places, in places where donald trump does really well a little bit stronger know tim walz has done and the same thing in minnesota. this is one of the things your question does that transfer over that's one of the reasons that mitt romney pick paul ryan and they lost wisconsin. so let's be careful about this, right? let's, it doesn't always translate. but if you're thinking about going into those smaller communities, going on local television markets into pennsylvania or michigan, or wisconsin, that's one of the reasons you debate shapiro and walls based on their past electoral history, have they run in places where trump has hurt the democratic party for both of them, the answer is yes. does that translate to a presidential race? big question mark. >> alright, i heard some chuckling there in the background. bakari, you first no, i was just chuckling because what happens if both of those candidates only marginally improve your

as her running mate because pennsylvania is so critically important you know, i love josh shapiro and i was friends have so many of the other people being considered. i think that what you've got and i think we'll hear this from governor shapiro. i've already seen my friend pete buttigieg send out beautiful comments about tim everyone likes tim. he leads the national democratic governors association. they know him. and so all of these people would have been qualified to be vice president. it's just kamala harris made a decision that for this moment in time and with his background and what he brings to america that tim walz was her choice. that isn't to say that anyone else wouldn't have been great. and what tim will bring when it comes to pennsylvania as he launches his first rally with vice president harris, there is that sense of getting that whole state because as you know, jim western pennsylvania is very much like michigan and wisconsin, and minnesota dates in the midwest. and that is a really, when you talk to someone like bob casey, who knows how to win in those areas, that tho

and i do also have to say this governor josh shapiro, i've worked with him for many, many years he is a consummate professional and we know he knows and all of us are going to come together to ensure that we defeat donald shapiro's breaking at this rally? yes, i believe you're going to hear from him soon. >> okay. all right. well, what an honor to sit with my mayor here about mayor of philadelphia, cherelle parker. thank you so much. let me bring in james carville, who led the bill clinton campaign to victory in 1992 is presidential race. a first of all, but what do you think of the pick governor walz well, i'm going to do something. >> you danced around him, but i'm gonna go right to it. i think paramount. never mine was the male vote. i noticed 00 qur'an npr crowd is going to faint that someone mentioned the male vote, but it isn't morning. a calm harrison and the guy just pointed out, he's an enlisted a combat veteran of the army. he's a football coach. he's a hotter, he's a fissure i think just a good signal and i'm very excited about it and how we need to improve our number of un

point to josh shapiro.esday announcement being in philly is not a giveaway. eric holder's firm is done vetting finalists and vice president needs to 3450e9 with them. she is back with a texas trip. she had a slip up at a funeral. >> it was sheila jackson lee whose bill made juneteenth a federal holiday. which as united states senator, i was proud to co-sponsor and as president -- as vice president with the president, it was my honor. >> peter: we don't expect to see vice president harris on camera today. >> steve: is the koourn president at the white house or did he take the day off? >> peter: he's at the white house and then going to fly to wils wilmington. >> kayleigh: internal meetings. >> brian: why wait? you have to figure by know monday, hit the ground running. do analysis and i think that might be opportunity for the trump team to hone messaging, cut spots and find out what spot of the career they want to focus on. vice president, ag, da, senator and keep personalities out of it. >> it will be josh s

what's your sense on josh shapiro? what's your sense on the shortlist that exists look, you've come under heavy fire today, but it's coming under heavy fire today because he is the most logical person to get this ticket across the finish line. >> pennsylvania is must-win. he's amazingly popular in pennsylvania and he's a beloved figure in pennsylvania, and he can make a tremendous difference. he pulls republican and democratic votes every time he raises his hand for, for public office. and so he's coming under fire but it will take some courage on her part to have let's just be honest here of black and jewish ticket. a black and jewish ticket with a woman leading the charge that if a legends are about change versus more of the same this is real change. this would be a courageous pick to say, we are not afraid of bigotry, we're not afraid of anti-jewish bias, would not afraid of anti-black bias. we're not afraid of anti-women woman bias. we're going to pick strong leaders no matter what they look like, no. like no matte

we are standing by outside the homes of pennsylvania governor josh shapiro. minute so the governor tim walz, no movement inside all the cameras just shook a little bit there. what does that tell us? and a bike rider went by the home of tim walz. are those signs that have picked could be eminence. we'll have the very latest for you next the sirens are going off and the tornado here i'm thinking, i'm going to die. >> and i thought that was it. >> violent earth with liev schreiber back-to-back episodes saturday at nine on cnn hugs biggest sale of the summer is extended, save up to 25% on moving in storage until august 12. and cy pods is it's been trusted with over 6 million moves. they don't wait, use promo code big 25 to save visit hot.com today. >> i thought we had a plan for dad. he was set to go to the senior living community, wracked by my house. then a friend suggested i talked to a place for mom. they really opened my eyes. >> my advisor listened and understood his needs and showed us options that we're still nearby. but a better fit for dad now, he's in

governor josh shapiro shot hoops in his driveway yesterday and enjoys teasing the press. he will be attending tonight's rally, will he be appearing as governor or as kamala harris' new vice president. the philly rally launches a blith blitz through seven b battleground states. j.d. vance will stop in philadelphia following harris all the way through north carolina this week on thursday. s this just coming through, j.d. vance says if harris does not choose josh shapiro, it is because of antisemitism in their own caucus, that is how that is playing out. >> ainsley: how sad is that. >> steve: quick question, sounds like the announcement will be done online, which is curious. and they are trying to raise money and say, if you would like to be among the first to know who it is, donate $20. you think whoever is arranging the live stream, the two could be together. >> it is fascinating. we got a text last night that said that, assign up and be first to know and once you assign up, there is a button to choose how you donate. it will be a last-minute decision. she has a team ready

it should be josh shapiro.nk this is a hard choice he's a very talented politician he's extraordinarily popular, 65% job approval in the state she needs to win now, just for context, of course, chris christie has not endorsed donald trump nor well he, but he hasn't endorsed biden yet. right. and you have to wonder how much headlines we're seeing today might be influencing this choice for her to pick somebody who's got governing experience versus the senator somebody who has had to manage a budget you know, governor walz has said budget surpluses the last two years in his state josh shapiro, you've got headlines in israel that's a place where it's been some the criticism and opposition within his own party has been an issue there, but it's also something for some of those moderate voters that could be a strength his perception as a moderate on fiscal issues, his stance on fracking, i mean, today in the light of those headlines at the stock market, they could be looking at that as a positive for vice president ha

there are a lot of progressives who labeled him, josh shapiro as genocide josh. so that speaks to the split within the democratic party. it all came down to who she got along with better. mark kelly was third choice. walz hit it out of the park. just tell me to do something and i'll do if. >> lawrence: point me to u unambitious politician. >> steve: apparently he was super ambitious. >> ainsley: bottom line is people would like him better than her. >> steve: he told them, i've been governor for a while and never used a teleprompter and never used a teleprompter in public until yesterday when he did that speech and they were packed to the rafters and he did well. >> ainsley: i felt sorry for him temperature is politics, they are in the state of pennsylvania, 60 something percent approval rating. he is not selected and has to go on stage. lawrence, you said he got more applause when he was up there. >> brian: interrupted "the five" yesterday. there was a long pause, waiting for everything to die down. governor walz told kamala harris, i don't want to be president a

will josh shapiro be there for the real josh shapiro is a good democrat. josh shapiro has a rising star in the democratic party. josh shapiro is a future president in the eyes of many democrats younger than walls. so can he help? does he help bring the party together to say, let's move on together. so fascinating. i was just i was about to get on the train to philadelphia. and when we were getting this reporting, i delayed the train by an hour to be here. but it's look, these are always fascinating picks. and again reporters obsess about them. people go nuts about them, and then in the end, you don't see how much impact i don't know that those rules apply anymore because we're in such uncharted territory with a campaign this late with donald trump's vice presidential pick having a more of a rocky rollout and so if you've watched governor walz has impressed everybody, he was a dark horse in this race, came up when he has impressed everybody in this race with his weird labeling, with his appearances on television. what does the vice presidential candidate? d

i thought that josh shapiro was going to be the appointed vp candidate. i think, you know, if, if we don't win pennsylvania, we don't win. so having pennsylvania in the pocket of the vice president is really important, as she makes her run. having said that, having just listened to josh shapiro, i've got to say, i think she got a twofer, she got josh shapiro, who obviously has incredible support in pennsylvania. he's going to be there fighting for her. and we have tim walz, who i served with for, oh, at least, i don't know, 8 or 10 years. and he brings some midwestern charm. and i know midwestern charm because i'm married to one and they are plain speaking, modest, and he has, a record that although they've tried to paint him as a progressive, he, he was a moderate in congress. in fact, he had an a minus rating with the nra, and i had an f rating with the nra. so you can tell that he has over the decades, been a moderate in many of his positions. so i mean, just that little snippet that you showed of him in his, hunting cap sitting on, a chair or couch, w

did you close your eyes and was josh shapiro barack obama and did tim walz get you off the couch?i did not think he was barack obama, but he was good. very good. i think this is a smart choice, a shrewd choice. >> some people have been saying safe. >> some people have been saying safe and i think that somehow sells it short because that implies inconsequential. he is a policy guy. free lunch for public school students. restorative voting rights. he got college in prison programs. you know when you think of all the things he has done and someone said this a couple weeks ago, for all of the things donald trump uses hate and fear to hammer home, there are policy solutions to this. when you look at tim walz is record you get the sense he is trying to use policy to address people's concerns. he has the ability to hit donald trump really hard and we have certainly seen this, but as claire mccaskill talked about earlier, you want to give him a hug. or he wants to give you a hug. to me that seems like empathy. it is that thing that joe biden brought to the table that a lot of folks even i

this guy josh shapiro is good.ess something happens that prevents him from running in 2028. >> jesse: what do you think that could become a judge? >> greg: i'm not ready to say. >> jesse: have you heard something -- >> jessica: like kamala harris running for reelection? >> jesse: no, something else, jessica. >> greg: because he is jewish and democrats hate jews, jessica. >> jessica: i told you how much we love speech when he seven. >> judge jeanine: this guy is phenomenal he may have stepped on himself in the past. >> greg: what about that whole story in philly about the woman -- >> judge jeanine: we don't know everything. >> greg: i have free speech. there was a woman that was declared a suicide when in fact it was a homicide. >> jessica: stab wounds -- >> judge jeanine: no, no, no. >> jessica: now she wants to talk. >> judge jeanine: i just have to -- >> jessica: no -- >> judge jeanine: at first they said it was a homicide, then she said it was a suicide,. they had to go to the highest court in the state of penns

shapiro? it have decided not to go with josh shairo? , , ., , shapiro? the two finalists, — shapiro? it seems that they were the two finalists, maybe _ shapiro? it seems that they were the two finalists, maybe mark _ shapiro? it seems that they were the two finalists, maybe mark kelly - shapiro? it seems that they were the two finalists, maybe mark kelly of. two finalists, maybe mark kelly of arizona was the third, and they were brought in over the weekend for final interviews, but let's think about the calculation, josh shapiro and, mike kelly, they will work hard between now and election day to elect kamala harris —— josh shapiro and tim walz. so whether he's the vice president or not, he will put his muscle behind harris, but we don't know why kamala harris went with tim walz, but hopefully they will report about that. she had a lot of great choices and options, if you think about what is happening in the last six weeks, it is crazy to think about, six weeks agojoe biden was at the top of the ticket and he was at the top of the ticket and he was about

>> i do like josh shapiro.l update positively if she picks josh shapiro but the pressure she is getting from the left wing of the party not to choose him is pretty ridiculous. all he's said on israel is it has a right to exist and there's no place for antisemitism in america. if that's too extreme for the left wing of the party, that doesn't tell me about him. that tells me about the democrats. >> trace: thank you both. coming up, new radio transmissions revealing just how bad communication was at the trump rally site between the secret service and local law enforcement meaning the security disaster in butler is getting worse. we'll have the latest. in the nightcap, harris set to announce her new running mate. we'll show them to you. >> so pennsylvania's governor josh shapiro is being discussed. he also endorsed her tonight. in your view, what are the pros and cons for putting him on the ticket? >> he's a first term governor. he's jewish. there could be risks in putting him on the ticket. >> trace: so shapiro a

josh shapiro owns that.r the mess in philadelphia just calmly harris is responsible for the mess she's created at the southern border. the increased crime and the increased inflation next to she and joe biden's disastrous agenda speaks sounds like you forgot your josh shapiro notes down. he seems just as radical as she is. not sure that the greatest pick but we'll find out and maybe we are wrong. maybe is michelle obama. we have no idea. say high to the baby for me. >> i well. thank you. the reason we don't hear much from kamala is she's hiding from radical past. the media not interested in sifting out san francisco socialist track record but we are. the democrat nominee wants 20 the prisons. >> i absolutely and without any question committed to reducing the prison population. i want to make sure i can meet it but i'm committed to drastically reducing prison population. >> jesse: prisons like walls work, separates violent people from the rest of us. lookit el salvador. the president rounded about the gang me

we're waiting for josh shapiro to come out.crowd. when you look at the crowd, and trump's now trying to make excuses for why he's not drawing crowds like that any more and they're holding people outside like reporters can't go outside and see there is nobody outside. i mean, he's -- this is driving him crazy, just that shot right there. >> we'll leave it up. we'll leave it up. >> that is driving him crazy. he's probably going to social media right now saying some of the ugliest things in the world. >> they've been doing it all day. >> this momentum, we were talking with maxwell frost in the last block about vibes. he took me to school. this is not something that i worked on campaigns, and this could not be manufacture and these people that took time out of their day today to see their candidate for president, vice president kamala harris. >> yeah, and those vibes in philly sound like the vibes that i saw in atlanta just last week when she was at the rally here. the doors were open for hours. they have the same level of enthusia

go ahead, cayley. >> the obvious problem is that josh shapiro had views anti-what the squads and the other radical members of the democratic party wanted. they don't want to support israel any longal. josh happen flew in the face of that and kamala harris was scared of losing that, mic in my home state of michigan. >> trace: and richard, going back to that whole thing later, why hasn't kamala harris done a news the conference? in this race for president for 16 days and has not answered a single question except during the prisoner swap home coming about a week ago. >> i think that over time, you will see the vice president sit for an interview. but i think the obvious point here is that what you're seeing in this race is the energy seems to be clearly with vice president harris and tim walz, and not with donald trump and j.d. vance in this moment. they're talking about what race she is, and whether or not we like cats, instead of talking about the issues that affect the american people. >> trace: richard, erin, cayley, thank you all. >> good to see you. >> trace: as many in the mainstr

if she picks josh shapiro and a little palestinian base, they like me because they think is going toring peace to the middle east even though i'm strong for israel israel loves me. a lot of the arab states want to see peace, i did the abraham accord, nobody realizes we would had peace all over the middle east i would've gotten iran they were dying to make a deal, iran was broke and they were $300 billion in cash inviting blue as usual, they are the worse, he is the worst president in the history of our country and she is a big part of it. maria: stay with us with the 45th president, he will give us his thoughts on tax, policy, tariffs, a.i. and tech wait until you hear what he said about google.

and i wouldn't count josh shapiro, mark, kelly, and tim walz among some some of the greatest leaders in our country. >> should she have spoken out as this process was going forward, as that campaign became even more obvious. well, i'm i'm speaking now and i am a co-chair of the campaign and i am happy to speak out on behalf of josh shapiro on behalf of tim walz and everyone else. who is we need to be a part of this moment. this is a high-stakes election. dana, and we can't let people create divisions that aren't there are stoke anger, jd vance was in michigan today. he was talking about crime. and he was trying to scare the heck out of people. what we offer is a positive vision about the future we are willing to make a seat at the table for everyone who has felt left out or left behind are unheard. and that's i think the fundamental difference here. we are a party of josh shapiro and tim walz and kamala harris and gretchen whitmer we are a party of ants, not oars i want to ask about one of the policy issues that i'm sure we're going to continue to hear about, particularly as it relat

josh shapiro might have more name recognition. he was seen as a frontrunner because pennsylvania's so critical to the election math. he's been part of a campaign that's led by progressives who disagree about the middle east, school vouchers and handling of a sexual harassment complaint against a former aide. do you think that weighed into her decision to go with walz instead? and do you see walz as a safer pick? >> so i'll say two things. when a candidate -- when the nominee for a party decides to vet someone, first of all the person has to say yes, they would like to be vetted because you never want to do a deep dive on someone's life if that's not what they're interested in, if they don't want the job. two, when you go through that vetting, it is very important that the process is private. you know, i heard president biden say all the time when he was a candidate that he never wants the process to deimage someone who is in fact not picked because that is unfair to them. and i think what is so bizarre, frankly, to me in these las

i'm told do not read anything into the philadelphia even though josh shapiro governor of pennsylvania, because other candidates also, she's also going to arizona by the end of the week, so we're not sure about that, but all eyes are on governor shapiro? >> yeah. as you said, not a position she expected herself to be in right now, the position really any of us expected her to be in a couple of months back, even two weeks ago? yeah. >> president biden was still a candidate. >> chris and homes over to you focusing on the trump campaign. now, they are expected to hit the campaign trail tomorrow. he and vice president, vice presidential nominee j.d. vance they've already been outspoken criticizing some of these potential democratic nominees. >> yeah, particularly focusing on governor shapiro. clearly, they believe that he is a very high contender on this list. now one thing to remember remember about donald trump is that even before he chose j.d. vance, one of the things that he has said routinely is that he doesn't think vice president's matter that that candidate does not matter. it's al

i would be floored if it were not josh shapiro at this point.josh shapiro makes sense geographically. i think he makes sense ideologically. i think there's also just a practical consideration. i can't imagine that the vice president comes to philadelphia on tuesday has josh shapiro on that stage and introduces someone other than josh shapiro as her running mate geographically, everyone knows the importance of pennsylvania and the 19 electoral votes ideologically, he provides balanced to her. and i think helps contend and limit some of that perception of her as being far left and a progressive from san francisco? >> yeah and interesting, sticking with pennsylvania for a second, we've we've seen vice president harris to your point, that her record in that primary, especially in 2019 into the 2020 race, when she took some these positions that she's now being criticized for being too far left. >> she's in recent days disavowed her past support for banning fracking, which is a huge issue in pennsylvania. how do you think that is playing and again, ho

he was asked about other candidates, one of them was josh shapiro.vernor of pennsylvania, someone that many people thought might have been on the bottom of the ticket with kamala harris. considering she is making the announcement in his home state and will need him to carry that, because likely she cannot win the white house without that state. let's watch j.d. vance. >> i genuinely feel bad that, for days, maybe even weeks, the guy actually had to run away from his jewish heritage because of what the democrats are saying about him. i think that is scandalous and disgraceful. whatever you believe, whatever disagreements on policy you have about somebody, the fact that the vice presidential race on the democratic side became so focused on his ethnicity i think is absolutely disgraceful, and it is insulting to americans, whatever background you are from. >> harris: jason? >> jason: that was a powerful statement, and i think it rings true for a lot of people, especially those people there in pennsylvania. what? and he will regret that he went through al

jobs, nonnative despite politically reporting with tim walz chances named harris running mate josh shapiroted to join her today in philadelphia leaves many to believe joining on ticket, shapiro has faced criticism from progressives over support for israel, and previous comments on palestinians, said that pick comes -- to polls in michigan and missouri for primaries for foreign i will say especially israel top issue michigan has large area of muslim population, 100,000 primary votes uncommitted, in missouri squad democrats rallying for cori bush her ant israel comments have her fighting for political life in that seat one of congress's harass of the critics of israel and operation in gaza giving all that i laid out to you what does it mean if she does choose shapiro this morning. >> all those lead to pennsylvania for harris electoral success, so, he could help her in pennsylvania that being said at expense of michigan is that expense of -- kind of interesting josh shapiro has been largely criticized especially this weekend for comments made in 1993 advocating for two-state solution, saying

josh shapiro is not brock obama. he's not the real mccoy as they say to use that phrase, but bullet pamela, i'm looking at this differently as a a strategist here, right? that philadelphia inquirer resurface some old remarks from governor shapiro where he stated palestinians will not cannot co-exist peacefully. younger progressives are warning against choosing shapiro that will absolutely become a problem for the harris campaign in states like michigan, where they're going to need about 60% of the muslim population in order to carry that state, they have to be very careful here if they're going to try to maintain that 2020 biden coalition going forward into november and it's clear that progressives want someone else because of the issues going on between israel and hamas in gaza? >> so karen, to bring you in to shermichael's point, a vp pick is supposed to do no harm, right? we're seeing what's happening with j.d. vance. everything is being dug up. when he said in the past and everything. so what do you say to this f

that one well-known favorite president biden, according to advisors, is up pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, as one senior adviser, put it to me bluntly, the president is a big fan of shapiro's and given also pam, just that the president clearly sees pennsylvania as being one of the most important battle the ground states heading into november, just as it was in 2020 for some advisers here at the white house, it's really impossible to imagine the president really up privately rooting for any anybody but shapiro, that is anyone other than perhaps minnesota governor tim walz. the most obvious reason as this adviser that i spoke with described to me is simply because he is just a blast and i want to use an event from back in january to illustrate this point. and illustrate why he is seen that way. inside the white house, among some advisors the president was in wisconsin for an infrastructure event and walz happened to be one of the democratic elected officials what is that joined the president on this day. the president spoke at a brewery and then the group all migrated next door to a tap roo

last few years. >> emily: boom. >> guy: i don't really think the front runners anyone other than josh shapiroe was a video put out by the philadelphia mayor, perhaps prematurely, that was touting the harris-shapiro ticket. maybe they hit send a little too early on that. i'm not sure what happened there, but he makes so much sense on paper for her, it seems nutty that he wouldn't be the pick. i guess we'll know soon enough, that i think it'll probably be him. >> harris: it's been talked about that he is the future of the democratic party, for the reason of his heritage, being jewish and all of that. before this moment in history, with the pro-hamas crowd, some of them. but i don't even think kamala could beat josh shapiro if it came to that. i really don't. >> emily: he outperforms her in literally every demographic possible. >> harris: so if they get into office and he decides he wants to move up the ladder, bye-bye, kamala. you could see it. i would say this, why did you take anyone else to a rally if it were not the governor of pennsylvania? it seems a little obvious. >> kayleigh: and if sh

pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, minnesota governor tim walz, and arizona senator mark kelly are all meeting with her today. former attorney general eric holder, the guy who is overseeing the vetting process, has been seen exiting the house as well, that is an important thing to watch for, too. and she is holding a rally on tuesday night with her running mate in philadelphia. so basically, we are getting very, very close to a decision here, and if we learn anything new at all in the next hour, i promise i will let you know as soon as we know. but the fact is no matter who she chooses, the announcement of this pick is going to build even more momentum on top of the already growing momentum for the harris campaign. the vice president has been holding big, energizing rallies like the one with megan thee stallion where she performed in atlanta this week, where the wrapper coined the phrase hotties for harris. she brought on a number of veterans like david, stephanie or, to add to an already seasoned team. the money is continuing to pour in at an insane pace. harris campaign said this wee

lk >>> plus, governors think josh shapiro is the odds on to get onto the ticket. ke sarah longmont is going to tell us what she is hearing. >>> later, i will talk to elissa slotkin who is running for the senate, and one of the most closely watched races in the country. >> okay. the first thing we should tell you today is that we are watching and waiting for any news at all about kamala harris's running mate. the vice president has been meeting with candidates one on one at her home in washington this weekend. josh shapiro, tim walz, and jo arizona senator mark kelly are all meeting with her today. former attorney general eric holder who is the guy who is overseeing the vetting process has been seen exiting her house as well, and that's an important thing to watch for, too. she's holding a rally on tuesday night with her running a mate in philadelphia. we are getting very, very close to a decision here. if we learn anything new at all, i will let you know as soon as we know. the fact is, no matter who she chooses is going to build even more momentum on top of the a

what it wasn't mark kelly, it wasn't josh shapiro? >> well, there is specifically talking to sources, they start off by saying tim walz really had great chemistry and rapport with vice president harris. in his interview he really felt like someone, which he thought about sort of a governing partner also someone who would help rule on the ticket that he really elevated himself in that way. always a good communicator. settled on the language and settled on one word to describe former president donald trump and jd vance and that was weird. we saw the harris campaign, that language that they really liked the idea that he was sort of a good communicator. and then there was just his bio point the background here being that he checks off a lot of the boxes that democrats want to have someone who is from the midwest, he talked to rural americans because he grew up in a small town. he also is a gun owner, a hunter, but he also has a story with his wife talking about their journey in years of fertility treatments so they finally had their daugh

2001 thing they all agree on is they approve of the job josh shapiro is doing. so in a state that is a tipping point state, that is an enormous windfall of electoral votes, yeah, i've always thought josh shapiro was the straightforward pick. it would be one thing if he wasn't a marlie good politician, but i think what we've seen out of him both in terms of his record -- when you do focus groups with people from pennsylvania, they will all tell you a bridge collapsed -- part of the highway, and he had it fixed in a couple of days. and they see that as good government, that he has consistently someone that runs straight down the middle of what a pennsylvania voter wants and somebody who plays really well in pennsylvania, has a good shot of playing well in places like michigan and wisconsin, which is still the most straightforward path for kamala harris. and so that's what i think he brings to the ticket. he's a great political athlete and probably brings the most important state. so unless their chemistry test is a real flop, i'd still be bullish on him. >> to be

harris passed over josh shapiro who is jewish.was talking about in defense of his faith. >> i lean on my family and i lean on my faith which calls me to serve. and i am proud of my faith. >> i talked to a lot of people in pennsylvania and elsewhere, jewish people who feel slighted by the fact that shapiro was not picked. i think the comfort level, the fact that he is an ambitious younger politician, who has been talked about as a presidential hopeful some day, and that harris clearly maybe from her own experience with joe biden and how awkward their pairing was at first, wanted somebody who would definitely not challenge her and be very comfortable being a second banana. >> yeah. i think that's right. i think we underplay how important personal comfort and chemistry is in making a selection like this. she wasn't just picking somebody to win an election. she was picking somebody she would want to share the stage with in these rallies, someone who she would want to be a trusted confidante. if she -- she spent time over the weekend a

josh shapiro, the republicans were scared of josh shapiro. republicans were scared of mark kelly. they were not scared of government waltz, but they should be they should be because what you just saw night was extraordinary. this was somebody i've heard from my most conservative friends. am i most liberal friends and even my radical friends. everybody's like this guy is amazing because he talks like a normal person about stuff that people really care about. and it's effective. and to david's point trump was ready to go with strength versus weakness i'm strong. biden's week give me the job. this is not that this is old and sorry and pathetic and boring and doom and gloom versus young and exciting and fresh and new and that's a different fight. it's the past versus the future is a completely different fight or the other thing is that attorney kamala harris has managed to do something without relying on donald trump to do it. she is united this party. we just say that the only thing that unite this party is donald trump she's not talking about d

go my god, take on what if the decision to overlook josh shapiro actually had nothing to do with josh shapiro and it was just that kamala harris clicked better with tim walz. she had two great choices there at the end. she's got to pick one. what if she just said? i like this folksy guy from the midwest. i like this guy who grew up in rural america. i like his joyful vibe. i think he can speak to people in a way that in an authentic way that's different than any other voice that's out there right now. i like his progressive populist policies and the juxtaposition against the other guys running mate, what if it was an affirmative choice for walz and not so much any other concerns that people keep voicing about josh shapiro. >> i think that's entirely possible. i'm going even probable. >> it doesn't so first of all, i just think it was weird. it turned out not to be as a false notice. i thought it might be to do this rollout in shapiro's home state if you're not going to pick shapiro, they could have done this rollout. name should get it. they could have done this rollout and wisconsin

he said no you're not allowed to be jewish and on the democrat ticket, if josh shapiro's name were josh smith, he'd be the vp nominee, ron named right now that is not the bite that i was going to play for you, but since it's it's their areas, so i enjoyed it well, let's talk about who isn't about that because that was a mash up of a lot of fox commentators, but republican lawmakers basically saying that the reason that we're talking about tim walz and not josh piero is because josh shapiro is jewish. >> do you think that there's any truth to that at all none i you know, you had three guys were the finalists, mark kelly, and and josh shapiro and tim walz. and you had to pick one of them. you couldn't have to run him may. and if you had it doesn't make any sense to me that that is the conclusion you come to elie's zeldin is also here. >> he's got a question for you as well as senator, it's great to see you josh shapiro and kamel and tim walz, they all gave what was about an hour and a half worth of remarks there was no mention of israel, there was no mentioned of anti-semitism. >> i don't

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rally in philadelphia one of the options already facing scrutiny from the right and left, governor josh shapiro pennsylvania senator john fetterman, has been warning harris's team not to pick shapiro according to a politico report, fetterman reportedly told harris that shapiro is more focused on personal ambition harris is republican rivals also attacking a potential shapiro pick i think if she picked shapiro, who happens to be jewish, she loses her little palestinian base because she has, because they like me because they think i'm going to bring peace to the middle east there's a lot of talk is going to be this guy, josh shapiro from pennsylvania, who you know, i've seen this a couple of clips of him talking. >> he talks like barack obama talks like barak obama joining me now to discuss all this, nic johnson, he's the publisher of axios and kadia goba. she political reporter at semafor. nick. i got to start with you on the undertake tokens there that we just heard. >> a company brock obama. >> yeah. i mean, i had i had read that the internet calls him veruca obama era reference to his jewish

josh shapiro, he said, good rising star in the democratic party, huge moment. many ways, in many ways. and he'll be on the battlefield helping this administration, helping harris. and was his path, helped him try to win the election and to just be out there again, as i said earlier, as the chairman of the democratic governors association, tim walz is very well liked and so the other governors love him and we yeah, there's a little bit of a bruised ego, of course you are. >> you love to be considered and then you're told know at the end. >> but josh shapiro, a rising star in the party. he's younger than both harris and walz and heal. i assume he'll take the first term. he'll take his first term, governor. and i was in pennsylvania last week, a lot of voters we'd love him to be vice president, but we just got them. we don't want to lose him so he can turn this into opportunity as well as you go forward and it reminds me a lot of wider brock obama pick joe biden but you wanted a blue collar guy with governing experience who would sort of balance you if you review,