. >> and joining us to talk about the texas case is josh willson a professor who has written a book on the policy behind this. let's start with why is abortion still the most heated topic in this country right now? >> so kind of the popularity for lack of a better term has ebbed and flowed over time. lately because state legislatures have been trying the push the limits on whey that can do. we've had a shift from in the 80s and 90s where we had row haves wade to a recalculation and recalibration to chip away at. which really came to national attention when texas was trying to pass these laws. and the public was made aware of what had been going on. >> the texas case that the supreme court is going to hear what's the impact of the eight justices hearing this case and how could it impact the country? >> it's quite interesting because you have eight justices. popular opinion is it's likely to be a 4-4 split. rules whatever they decide decides for the entire country. but when you have a split it only applies to the district that it came out of so it would be texas, louisiana, and ms so if