but again, the revolutionary courts convicting and sentencing shane bauer and joshua fattal.ccording to the source cited by state media, they're saying the two individuals are getting three years for trespassing and five years for spying. a charge their lawyers have strongly denied. we have reached out to the hiker's lawyer and what's bizarre, he seems not to be up to speed on what's happening. he said he wasn't aware of the verdict. he heard it in the media and is not going to comment on this verdict until and unless he speaks with court officials. of course, this is a case that garnered worldwide attention shortly after july 2009 and increased tensions between washington and tehran. i don't think this is a verdict that's going to help relations between the u.s. and iran. we should note that this case is probably not over. the lawyer has 20 days to appeal and you recall back in 2009, another american, american journalist roxanne na was detained, convicted of spying and was released shortly there after. don't rule out the possibility of these two being release d as well. >> t

meantime the use expanding sanctions on damascus let's try to round all this up talk to professor joshua landis is from the center of a mideast studies at the university of oklahoma thanks for being with us professor much appreciate it so serious forces are continuing to crack down on the people despite government promises of reform and change why. well how are those which is the center of this crackdown. came left government control about three weeks ago the government the governor allowed to called off the troops and withdrew security from the town. was summarily fired and the government realized this was a big mistake and what happened now is the last three weeks our has been out of government control and in as ramadan comes and the opposition said that every day would be friday we think the government is clearly trying to take control of hama and doesn't want to become a site where perhaps a new military could grow up a free syrian military or a new political order can the un off anything here it's set to meet for them urgency session on syria do you think the security council may ha

about the compromise that some say rather than i spoke to senior writer and editor for alter net joshua holland now progressive that said that obama surrendered they call this a failure because it has no tax increases i asked him if obama failed on this agreement take a listen well a lot of progress is are very unhappy with the administration's bargaining tactics and they feel that they gave up. and conceded some of the leverage that they might have held over these negotiations early on so the president said that he would take this so-called constitutional option off the table a lot of progress as i'm hearing from are saying well that was something that was a fallback position that could have. pressured republicans to be more conciliatory what we've ended up with is a plan that is very very skewed towards republican priorities so then what would you suggest defaulting in order to get a better deal. well you know default has been everybody agrees the default is a worst case scenario the question is whether the administration might have. played hardball to a greater degree and gotten some

the reaction of family and loved one waiting word on joshua fattal and shane bauer's fate. >> reporter: in video released by the iranian court we see the two americans during their court hearing yesterday. >> reporter: you see here it shows shane bauer and joshua fattal on the two year anniversary of their detention. the attorney expects the court to announce their fate charged with spying this week. today a state department spokesman said the obama administration says they hope they are released soon. >> they have been held far too long and waterers they should be released. >> reporter: they were hopeful since this is the month of ramadan when pardons are handed down. >> with the grace of god, if they are found guilty their sentence will not exceed the jail term they served and ultimately will be released. >> reporter: they arrested them along with sarah shourd two years ago. they say they were hiking and not aware they crossed into iran. sarah shourd was released a year ago and continues to rally for her friends' release. >> if it wasn't for them i wouldn't be standing here today. >>

me they gave me judges number the joshua was dealing with the case and i contacted him it was already late so i called him the following morning we arranged to meet the next day in the human rights office she was going to meet the representative and invited me to the meeting i said all right i went to i gave my evidence and asked to see the photos she asked me why i wanted to see them i said i needed to be sure it was really him so he showed me them. i have this to to my hand the letters c.n.n. which stands for can stands in the way or was she has the same to two here. alexander was a year older than me when he died he was thirty one he suffered from a mental disease called bipolar affective disorder you had a son a young boy of nine. she showed me this tattoo. and i just felt that i wanted the ground to open up below and swallow me out. it was so tough. i just put my hands over my mouth and couldn't say anything. she came up to me to take back the photo book. the photos were scanned but i told him no sir i'm strong enough to look at them. and. i disappeared from the neighborhood. at

shane bauer and joshua fa tad and sarah shourd were detained. shourd was released on bail and did not return. the men were sentenced for espionage. the lawyer told the press the appeal could be granted immediately or take up to two months to be processed. there is still hope the pair will be pardoned. the sentence was handed down during the muslim holy month of ramadan, a time courts traditionally show compassion and usually issued the last day of the holiday and ramadan ends this week. >>> another b.a.r.t. protest expected tomorrow is expected to cause more traffic problems. it is supposed to be at 5:00 tomorrow. this time they're continuing to demand b.a.r.t. disband its police force due to recent police shootings including that of oscar grant and charles hill and protesting the decision by b.a.r.t. to turn off cell phone service on trains and understands grou underground in san francisco. >>> what if we told threw is a place it is completely legal to launder money. a secret room in a san francisco hotel. mike anderson introduces us to rob, th

there's a remarkable letter written in 1875 to his friend, joshua speed.e was one of the few people that lincoln became close to in the court of his life. it's remarkable that someone like lincoln with such a rich inner emotional life had very few people he became close to and confided in. joshua speed is one of these people, the man of whom lincoln famously shared a bed for four years when he was a young man. he writes about the know nothing movement, the antiimmigrant movement is really catching fire in america, and he says, you know, our country was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and then that became all men except negroes are created equal, and now it seems to become all men except negroes, catholics, and immigrants are created equal, and if this is what our country is going to be, i might as well move to russia where i take this attitude unadulterated without hypocrisy. he believed freedom and slavery were imcompatible whatever he found expedient to say as a politician. >> adam, with your interview yesterday, you said, and i'

president obama and the people of the united states in expressing our unflagging support for shane, joshua, sarah and their families during this difficult time." nbc's ali arouzi is in tehran and has more on this story. >> reporter: that's right, thomas, there has been a lot of confusion here as to what would have happened with these guys. they got an eight-year sentence. now we have to watch very carefully to see how the authorities in iran are going to play this. we have several options here. there's an appeal of the pardon in 20 days, or the most important thing that we're looking out for is to be pardoned at the end of the month of ramadan. one of the ways iranians could be looking at this is to have given these guys a very, very harsh sentence, and then suddenly let them go at the end of the month of ramadan would make the authorities here, in their view, look very magnanimous. the other big concern is that these guys will be kept here for a tid for tat or for a bargaining chip. the iranians have made a lot of noise since the trio was arrested about iranians incarcerated in u.s. priso

shane bauer and joshua fattal were back in a courtroom for a hearing. lawyers said the judge will announce if they'll go free. bauer and fattal was arrested along with shana shourd while hiking in iraq. shourd was released in september. >>> a stop for a scenic photo nearly turns tragic. the dramatic rescue brought about by two good samaritans. >>> anywhere from 3:00 to 4:00 in the morning going through the garbage. s to stop them. >> desperate for a few dollars, the growing number of trash thieves and why one community wants to stop them. >> i'm jim menard in the severe weather center. we'll take a look at you what can expect through the week coming up in just a few minutes ,,,,,,,,,,,, stinson beach. a man and woman stopped to take a picture and fell 150 feet. two peop two tourists are recovering after slipping off of a cliff above stenson beach. a man and woman stopped to take a picture and ended up falling 150 feet. two people stopped to help and the sonoma was sheriff's office. the man suffered critical injuries. his female companion wasn't as serio

saying "we are deeply disappointed that iranian judicial authorities have sentenced shane bauer and joshua fattal to eight years in prison. we continue to call and work for their immediate release. it is time for them to return home and be reunited with their families. i join president obama and the people of the united states in expressing our unflagging support for shane, joshua, sarah and their families during this difficult time." nbc's ali aruizie is in tehran covering this story. ali, is iran going to take any of these comments from the u.s. state department into consideration, especially since there have been conversations all along? >> reporter: they're certainly going to take it into consideration behind closed doors because this has the danger of turning into a tit for tat situation. they may use the hikers as bargaining chips. this morning the chief prosecutor again confirmed these very harsh sentences. he also brought up the case of sarah shourd, saying she didn't show up for the court case and she will be charged in an stenza. but the big question is whether by the end of rama

eleven am in the russian capital you're watching r t was nearing a joshua welcome to the program rebels have stormed and loot a colonel gadhafi compound in tripoli after three days of fighting in the libyan capital here's how it happened i was like oh my god i mean did the freeze rule. but then then this thing kevin i found this i was like oh my goodness but i'm happy you know i'm having this thing. angry crowds than did their anger add the poor and the lock. at the compound while the location of khadafi himself is still not known he made a second radio address in the space of twenty four hours pollyannas supporters to play as a capital claims that his retreat from the compound was a tactical move and promised to fight to the death some pro get out and forces continue their armed resistance with reports suggesting they're attacking the town of marjah lot west of tripoli missiles attainments journalist richard spencer says that even if the rebels take control of the contrary civil war is imminent i think would be us as accomplish is to establish a coming civil war in libya which we have

intervention in syria but economic sanctions against of ask us are being stepped up middle east expert joshua landis things this will eventually backfire on the syrian people. all of the syrian opposition leaders who have now. elected executive committees have all demand that there be no foreign intervention now of course foreign intervention is a very broad and gray area there's military intervention like libya but there's also economic strangulation which could come along the united states already has sanctions fairly severe sanctions on syria the west feels it needs to do something it doesn't want to stop trade you know we've tried sanctions in iraq in iran libya they haven't worked very much and when they have work they starve the people not the government and that's the danger of sanctions if they feel good because you feel like you're doing something and you could tell the opposition you're on their side but they in fact they often hurt the people you don't want to hurt. we're following all the events taking place in the middle east where the unrest continues and all of these on our web

ninety am of the russian capital you're watching our joshua welcome to the program rebels have stormed and loot a colonel gadhafi compound in tripoli after three days of fighting in the libyan capital heres how it happened i was like. whoa whoa. this happened i. was like oh my goodness you know i'm having this big. joke joke joke joke about some of the back up. while they should have could offer himself as still not now and listen to radio address and said that he's retreated from the compound was a tactical move and promised to fight to the death some progress and forces continue their armed resistance with reports suggesting they're attacking the town of aijalon west of tripoli with missiles and tanks journalist richard spencer says that even if the rebels take control of the country civil war is imminent i think would be us as accomplish is to establish a coming civil war in libya which we have financed we will be as we will have trained a number of the people who will be killing one another we shouldn't be naive children and think that these rebels are these nice little folks who w

. >> tell us about the two attorneys, both from the bay area, nadia and joshua. they were not like seasoned criminal justice lawyers. they were rookies. they were land use attorneys. how did they get involved? did they know what they were getting into? >> they really didn't. they may have thought they did. i think they thought they were stretching their, you know, i mean, this was also in their first year as lawyers, like fresh out of law school. so that was another thing that attracted me to making the film was this fish out of water element where -- >> one was an orthodox, one a marathon runner. >> that's right. they're an odd couple right fresh out of law school. they're very different from each other and they've chosen as their pro bono side project in addition to the land use law that they do to try to get this woman out of prison. and one of the things that i think binds them to debbie that you sort of learn over the course of the film is that they, too, have had their own experiences with domestic violence, and once you know that, you know they are not goi

and i am in the russian capital you're watching r t with me joshua welcome to the program. the un last call for restraint in libya ended reports of abuse and alleged summary killings by both rebels and gadhafi loyalists the security council is also agreed to release one point five billion dollars in libyan assets to help deal with humanitarian needs the opposition continues to claim that tripoli is largely under its control while the national transitional council says it's moved from its stronghold of benghazi to the capital there are reports of heavy resistance by could our forces with the colonel's whereabouts still unknown while this area and the other radio message claiming he's fighting on the front line nato has denied previous reports that its system grapples. investigative journalist west sitar fully as it can often is capture will shift its attention to countries like syria. gadhafi was supposed to fall in march he has essentially gummed up the works he has assumed the blocking position of be the nato subversion machine and he's kept them tied up for six and seven

states i get the impression that there's a deep split in opinion about that number of people such as joshua landis at the university of oklahoma believes that. the assad regime is very tough in his words and could endure for quite some time and that eventually this will be this will become increasingly bloody but that there's no interest at this point in syria's compromise. and there's no sign that the military or his control over the military has has weakened it all or that the military itself is splitting apart. on the other hand there are others who claim and i think this is become conventional wisdom that the violence has been so great as has been the bloodshed. that the regime is doomed and it's a question now of time some believe that he's on his very last legs and major desertions at any time could bring about the regime's collapse and others are are much more skeptical about that so with that situation warrants any form of foreign intervention. well i mean the chief chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. in the united states has has ruled out any form of direct military intervention

and i am in the russian capital you're watching r t with me rena joshua begin with breaking news this morning and crowds of rebels have been celebrating in the central square of tripoli according to reports they are now in control of most of the capital two of colonel gadhafi sons have been arrested however the location of the libyan leader himself remains unknown while we now cross to independent journalist lisa helen in tripoli find out what's happening on the ground there. tell us what's been going on in the city right at this moment and what's the situation there now. ok everything that i'm about to say is. just as all of the information in the city coming from journalists will be unconfirmed because we have been in hotel all night i have had all night there has been a lot of noise outside the hotel there's really been battles taking place as you know there has been an immense amount of bloodshed and question. but now things have gone extremely quiet and i have spoken to a number of people across the city and everyone is also things are very quiet i have heard. that people have co

marina joshua welcome to the program and our breaking news story this morning libyan rebels claim they are in control of most of the country's capital tripoli t.f. gadhafi sons are arrested with some reports suggesting the leader himself is in a specialist heart hospital town fourteen kilometers east of tripoli following a night of chaos in the capital crowds were seen in the city's central square with people waving revolutionary flats journalists. is a hotel in tripoli where the foreign press has been obliged to state during the conflict. guy got fired at the start of the day while i was putting signs saying press made signs of going to the front of the till they fired going to tell they have snipers. we all feel threatened it's less now than before but if the rebels get here a lot of us are feel very secure about that there's been looting you know tell right now i'm in the libyan media stories office which is. basically you need permission to be near by i took the liberty to come in here to show you can looting so you can see the projector up there was taken and you can see the light

there was one remarkable letter he wrote in 1855 to his friend joshua speed being lincoln's friend who was really one of the few people that lincoln became close to in the course of his life. it is remarkable that someone like lincoln who was such a rich inner emotional life had very few people he could really become close to end can fight in but joshua speed is the man with whom lincoln shared a bed for four years when they were young man. so lincoln roads to speed and this is as they know nothing group the anti-immigrant movement, is really catching fire in america. and he says, you know, our country was founded on the principle that all men are created equal. and then, that became all men except are created equal. now it seems to be all men except, catholics and immigrants are created equal. and if this is what our country is going to be, i might as well move to russia where i can take my despotism unadulterated with the alloy of hypocrisy. [laughter] so you know i think lincoln did believe in freedom and slavery were incompatible. whatever you may have founded as expedient as a pol

s expanding sanctions on damascus professor joshua landis from the university of oklahoma told me earlier that sanctions may not work as they end up targeting the people rather than the government. as ramadan comes and the opposition said that every day would be friday we the government is clearly trying to take control of how much and doesn't want to become a site or perhaps a new military expert grow up the free syrian military or a new political order the west feels it needs to do something it doesn't want to stop trade you know we've tried sanctions in iraq in iran libya they haven't worked very much and when they have work they starve the people and not the government and that's the danger of sanctions it's the feel good because you feel like you're doing something and you could tell the opposition you're on their side but in fact they are going to hurt the people you don't want to hurt military intervention economic sanctions may do no good can the world stop syria from going through this these convulsions i'm not sure it can. coming up on hour two with me kevin though in this hour

global problem so who could be behind it and we really just find this out here discuss this with me is joshua green speck so i was scared a fellow at the center for democracy and technology and i see you again thanks for coming on thank you so much for having me is this as big of a deal as everyone's making it seem it is this really the largest cyber attack coming from one organization or a group or even one individual in history i think what's interesting about this particular attack is that it connects a bunch of disparate attacks on individual organizations to one command and control center so what's being done here is sort of taking a bunch of attacks that were occurring this times noticed by the organizations they were part of and saying no this was a collective effort by one group of organization controlling one particular server now. to us exactly it is they're calling it operation shady rat or remote access tools how does this all work they get on to somebody computer because they might have a virus on it and that's that they have access right so what this is this is an example of a k

eleven am in the russian capital you're watching r t a marina joshua welcome to the program colonel gadhafi son has made an appearance in central tripoli refuting rebels claims that had been arrested he came to speak with international journalists who are still trapped in a hotel without electricity and communications during a brief window when power was restored we've managed to speak on the phone with independent journalist sleezy phelan who saw safe khadafi herself. well there have been some extraordinary event tonight of course we've been hearing over the past few days that the libyan government is crumbling the position of claim the rebels have claimed that they are in complete control of tripoli so it was not the surprise the surprise of all the foreign journalists in the rixos hotel went by far as i'm sure at the hotel. with his convoy and he gave an interview he did and he also took some of that done with him for a drive through just fifty where they were taken to the the area some of them say they saw thousands of people in this in the area and suppose that the libyan government an

this is r t coming to live from moscow i'm marina joshua welcome to the program and information blackout appears to have to sanibel media for hours there has been no significant updates coming from tripoli hotel where the international journalists have been staying is left without electricity and communication or earlier the story took a major twist on colonel gadhafi son made an appearance in central tripoli refuting rebels claims that he had been arrested during a brief window when power was restored we managed to speak on the phone with an apparent journalist sleezy felon who saw saif gadhafi herself. so there had been some extraordinary event tonight of course we've been hearing over the last few days that the libyan government is crumbling the position of the rebel detained they are in the control of tripoli so it was not a surprise to the surprise of all the foreign. power went by but eventually docked at the hotel. with. convoy and he gave an interview to be done with the some of the time with him for a dry fifty where they were taken to the area some of them say they saw thousand

welcome back you're watching r t coming to you live from moscow i'm marina joshua these are the top stories failure after launch emergency crews are searching for the unmanned russian space freighter which crashed on wednesday in siberia the sun is rocking was ferrying food and fuel to the international space station when it fell back to earth. rebels in libya promise a bounty of two million dollars for colonel gadhafi dad are alive that's as western nations wastes no time in jostling for a slice of the country's oil pile under is a new government. and the u.s. and e.u. are pushing for more.

am in the russian capital you're watching r t with marina joshua welcome to the program and first weather is hampering the search for the wreckage of an unmanned russian cargo space ship which crashed in the altai region in southern syria the soyuz rocket blasted off on wednesday and was ferrying food and fuel to the international space station but it fell back to down to earth well you now get the latest on this now on peter oliver peter so we're hearing of some difficulties with the search for this freier are emergency crews any closer to finding the wreckage well that's right the recovery process is being held at the moment due to some severe budget weather in the area of such southern side period where the progress much will went down now this is stopping them being fail to fly helicopters in there very frustrating for all those recovery workers they're going to be incredibly keen to do get this wreckage have a look at it get it back to the loved. and find out what went wrong now there have been a state of emergency imposed in the area in the altai in southern siberia where they see t