also, joshua harris. we welcome you both.g colbert, the significance -- this was a bench trial, right? caesar goodson was charged with most serious charge, second-degree -- can you explain "heart" murder? >> sure, but it is important keep in context howrare it is for police officers to be charged with homicide throughout our country. there is a proximally 10,000 people killed while in police custody during the last 10 years, and only 54 have made it to trial and only four had been convicted. rare.is exceedingly what we're seeing a baltimore is a local prosecutor who conducted an independent investigation because she was well aware of the likely outcome if police investigated themselves. the prosecution presented a very strong case against officer porter the first trial. nearly convicting him of two charges. yesterday's trump concluded with an acquittal, but in my opinion they presented a strong case and that would include the depraved indifference as well as the reckless homicide and the other assault and misconduct charges.