screwed everything up to begin with for more on this i'm joined now from our new york studios by joshua holland senior digital editor of bill moyers dot com joshua great to have you back tom thanks for having me and congratulations on the new gig that is that is so cool. you heard my rant about how health care dot gov was really designed to be basically google you know push people out of the states and now it's having to manage thirty six different and very disparate databases why do you think the media is calling out the tea party in the governors who essentially sabotaged the exchange site. well i think that you know they they wanted to be like a corporate rollout and we've heard a lot about i phones and things like that in addition to the problems that you're talking about. in the private sector if you have complex product and this is a very complex product and your engineers tell you well this isn't really ready for prime time what you do is you delay it by three months or six months and you give them a chance to work out the bugs when congress passes a law and says that this exchange goes