i'm joined by my guess. joshua landis in oklahoma city. he is director of the middle east studies program at the university of oklahoma. in berlin. we have coverage on my son. he is found rest of the re analysis and in b route we crossed through godaddy. francis. she is a journalist and more correspondent, right across black roles in effect, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. joshua, thank you very much for joining us. i know it's very early for you in reflecting them on with the over the last couple of days, the side tech terrorism, what we can call it that in lebanon. obviously at the, at the hands of the is re lease here. what is the message that is being sent because i like everyone else on this program in our viewers, i scour every, it's kind of opinion and the opinions are very diverse and trying to interpret what's going on here. what's your take? go ahead. as well as, as a major blow to his bella, there is no doubt about it and to um, the resistance access in general. um how much is known for bei