joshua pechtault, there are 6 million students in california, 325,000 students. this is the beginning of the end of teacher tenure? >> no, i don't think so. we're going to appeal this and i think even more importantly we're going to continue to work with parents and community and a vision for a quality public education that both raises up kids and also values the men and women who work with them, which is the complete opposite of what this ruling attempts to do. >> ifill: russlynn ali, how do we know it's the teachers who are failing the students and not something else? >> well, what the judge decided today made it quite clear that, taken together, the statutes that guarantee lifetime employment after 18 months that don't look at factors like whether teachers are actually teaching kids and whether they're learning, statutes that make termination nearly impossible, costing hundreds of house of dollars, and statutes that ensure that those most new to the profession are first fired, and anytime there needs to be a reduction of force for budget reasons, they're takin