emily: how would you describe your faith in the ceo, joshua tetrick, and your faith in hampton creekcompany? do you still think this will be a winner in your portfolio? do you still think this company can transform the food chain? vinod: hampton creek has already done a lot to change the food chain. all male chicks when they are born are crushed live in hoppers. it is just horrific. he is changing that practice. he's bringing visibility to it. are they making a difference? absolutely. even if they are not successful, they will have made a difference by bringing visibility to these real issues that the egg industry is trying to distract from. as far as the ceo is concerned, we normally talk to his team and see do the team support the ceo? when they don't, we have to have a conversation with the ceo. do ceos make mistakes? absolutely. do we make mistakes? absolutely. it is a constant evaluation process. emily: you are very passionate about clean tech. you have made a lot of investments here. some people would say that investors like you and john doerr made a mistake by going too far in