and that reporters are joshua wong one of the student leaders during the twenty fourteen protests in our needs the pro-democracy group there morsi story and he joins us from hong kong joshua glad you could make it would it be fair to say that today's verdict was somewhat expected today a verdict just generate cheering ask if fact to fratton activists and people in hong kong to fight for free in action and democracy now you yourself went to jail because of the part that you played in the twenty fourteen pro-democracy movement what would you say is the state of the pro-democracy movement in hong kong since then one country two systems ship it a parlous made by beijing and british government be a fraud to transfer all sovereignty however in a recent year under the hot line policy off president xi system in hong kong already erode into one country one and half system so to day i just realized and just experienced political prosecution and we also realised on how days are long term battle for us to fight for free election what all we ask for is just creating elected the leader of our city

and joshua wong, another pro—democracy activist, says this marks definitive proof of hong kong's lacklature, you can see this debate is very lively, so we certainly can talk about it. now, what i think a lot of people are confused, visually or optically, is what happens in china. in china, that is a different story. but i think in hong kong, these types of topics, these types of issues, are discussed very lively every day. of course we maintain that freedom of expression in hong kong. so you're saying that there is no freedom of speech or expression in china, the mainland, but that there is, actually, in hong kong. everyone understands that we operate in a very different way than the rest of china. that's why the two systems exist very lively in hong kong. but then why would — for example, since 2014, the pro—democracy umbrella revolution protesters even since then are still protesting, as they were outside the university of hong kong in march, protesters saying we condemn the punishment of four students because they were defending freedom of speech. you've got people who disagree wit