he was also of a close ally to joshua wong. he managed to flee before the mass arrest, and he now lives in the united states. he gave me his take on what the court decision today means for the future of the pro democracy movement in hong kong. is going to be tough. i mean, i sat, right, i mean, because i said this friday and before this product or we have the national spiritual, we have the article 23, which is an auto federal, controversial. so simply the law that hope to dismantle the political freedom that hold on people once at the right. if you asked me whether or not i would anticipate, there will be like my scale most button in homes on the street in the near future. i think the answer is no, right? however, i will say hong kong people when it gets up because there's too many ways for them, like i mean underground, also for, for thoughtful offices to sustain and maintain the momentum. i tried to lift the hold on identity to use my symbol, to contact the beach and narrative. that was the hong kong pro democracy activism.

i think joshua wong was among the 47 pro democracy activists arrested. they were charged with conspiracy to commit some fashion under a national security law and post by china that no had been introduced following protests, which so tens of thousands take to the streets to defend democracy. trying to set the law was needed to restore stability. the critics say it's been used to crush political position on the state. only 2 of 16 defendants were acquainted of some fashion. the other 14 were found guilty, a point not lost on laurence. now i should not be the focus for today. i hope everyone will continue caring for other friends in the case. these men may be free for now, but the prosecution has already launched an appeal against that real quick holes. the 14 guilty verdicts, meanwhile have i'm good many in hong kong and outside. but the chinese foreign ministry has hit childhood international criticism. toronto during the week, completely oppose any interference in china is internal affairs by individual countries on the basis of current legal cases. and

jones, he was one of the nominees in the 2020 primaries and he's also i understand a close ally to joshua wong. and he tells me that he just managed to flee before the mass arrest took place in hong kong. so i think it's good to have you on the program, but i wanted to start by asking you what went through your mind today. when you heard about this, the court's decision. today it is difficult um, just bear with difficult to see a witness manufacturer of mine including joshua uh now behind the ball and on this very tough to see that the visual 40 and hold on for r t a. so determined um to uh, to what pops the whole pool democracy camp. and i think this is a very unfair trial. and just so many interests tests can be found during the shops . i spoke with joshua long, several years ago when he was traveling through europe. he was trying to lobby for more support from europe for the opposition's calls in hong kong. i remember asking him why don't you leave hong kong while you're still able to isn't your freedom more important to you? and he said he couldn't do that. that he was gonna change the sys

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