joslin said. i do think we're going to be seeing this a lot. it's not just on buildings that we're keeping a facade. i think it will be on all the vertical resources that will have an addition to them. when i say i've been dealing with this for a long time, one of the conversations we had internally at a.i.g. was standard nine and how this need to design vertically over historic buildings is just going to become more and more of an issue. we had this constant argument around -- i wouldn't say it's constant, but when it came up, we had this disagreement and weather standard nine needed to be revised or if it's good enough as it is. and whether it's up to the local jurisdiction and city to develop the guidelines that make it apply more meaningful to that community or if we as, you know -- when can the standards be revised, right? i mean, that was kind of -- and it was all around this vertical addition. so just since i've been on this commission -- well, there's four major projects. one i worked on long ago and that's the williams building at 3rd

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