that's not journalism under any accepted understanding of what journalism is. >> in your book, use bend a bit of time talking about -- and -- >> i think he has smart things to say. from chicago, he wrote a book called rules for radicals. he talks about make them live up to their own principles. he said that's the most important thing to do is to use their own rules and make them up to them. another way of saying that is exposing hypocrisy. he also talks about the idea of picking a subject and focusing on as opposed to lofty broad narratives. this can be applied to what i do. focusing anecdotally on voter fraud it's a hot button issue in the united states. some people say there is no voter fraud and others believe the whole election was stolen. there are instances of fraud for example in minnesota and texas, someone was arrested by the attorney general after we caught her on tape bragging about the crime she was committing. there's a methodology which is to focus on the actual facts not on these broad narratives which is what most people in media do. >> in the book, you use a technique o

this is a new type of journalism. blind continue to write, analyzing stories, always siding with the underdog. she wrote sympathetic stories about the poor. women in marginalized groups are treated by police. she traveled to chicago where she covered a strike. she was the only reporter to write story from the workers perspective. she wrote profiles of interesting people. a boxer, a suffragist, an anarchist. she introduced a new genre for women. all right, this trend would trickle out and influence women at other newspapers. william randolph hearst had his own stunt reporters. oh woman with the pen name of annie laurie worked for hearst at the san francisco examiner where she, similar to what blind had done, faked a fainting spell in the middle of a busy road just to test the ambulance response time. when a devastating hurricane hit galveston, texas, in 1900 she dressed as a man to be allowed to go cover the devastation there for her newspaper. she eventually also made her way to new york city. i also have noticed this

>> -- towards journalism. [inaudible] >> what if the history of women in sports journalism? another really great question. throughout the 20th century women had to fight really hard to be allowed to cover, especially men sports. sports, some of these areas like sports, politics, hard news they are considered very masculine beats. women really didn't get to cover sports in any notable numbers until the 1970s, after affirmative action policies. even then there were lots of issues surrounding access to athletes. locker room interviews. harassment on the job. i would say that sports is one of those areas that is sort of one of the last areas to become accepting of women, and it is still a work in progress. yeah? >> in your research, do you have a favorite or more influential female journalist? >> based on my own research do i have a favorite? do i have a favorite journalist? you know, i have to say that the person that that i wrote about i wrote about -- i wrote a biography of sylvia porter and she is still probably my favorite female journalist to talk about. she started workin

when people talk about the history of journalism and women in journalism, nelly buy's name always -- nelly bly's name a always comes up. she's very well known, and the reason is because she was extremely significant. okay. so two pieces of context. increasing commercialization of the press, right? publishers or in it for money trying to drive up circulation, get eyeballs. on the one hand. women caught in this sort of dilemma, on the other hand. traditional femininity, right? versus, you know, a profession, a writing life, not being able to negotiate it very well. how are these things going to come together? if they came together in the form of nelly bly. so nelly bly was born cochran. she was born in pennsylvania. was born elizabeth cochran. her father died, are you sensing a pattern? her father died when she was just 6 years old. her anymore fake was pink -- her nickname was pink, by the way. her father had been married before and had something like ten children. she was a result of the second marriage. five children in that family. and when he died, he hadn'ting left any provisions

it's a good day to journalism. and so that's something i might take on that is again informed by my own personal experiences. i don't think i should have any inches. i think i should have done it in sentences. the other one is kind of starting a new conversation. so i asked people to send me ideas that they have about things that really, really matter to them. so i'm often checking my dns, my email, and just looking at the things that people care about and verify that comes from their own personal experiences. right. so be like a school teacher from one part of america when the public school system is being defunded. the i'm aware of and those are questions that might not necessarily come to me because they're not pause my lived experience. but i think that the really important questions a blue hi me 5 years ago and, and still just a mother from the same woman in that country in terms of my paperwork. and it was just a really, really scary time. and i don't think it's in any scary time. there is a great extent isn'

susan: how long did that golden age of journalism last? prof. gajda: i would say it really began crumbling in the age of reality television. when news and entertainment merged, arguably. i don't really buy that whole idea necessarily, but people have suggested certain programs were not really news, they were entertainment and you see that pushback in those decisions early on, in the late 1980's and certainly by the early 1990's, this dish taste in the mouth of -- on what they consider journalism. they called it media but by calling it media, they then could hamper what we consider journalism as well. susan: people that see polling today about public attitudes towards the press will be surprised that post-watergate, 72% of the public believed in and trusted the media. and the public's right to know was championed during that time. that is the pendulum swinging the other direction. during this period of time, there is a story in your book about a documentary film made that took 25 years of litigation to be shown. it was done by frederick reisman.

so court was distrustful of journalism. in the 1920's, a uniform code of ethics across the united states began and newspaper editors got together and decided there would be one code of ethics for all journalists. that code of ethics included privacy provisions. the suggestion that some information was too private to be reported and that all journalists should respect that sort of privacy. so as journalism began becoming more ethical and pulitzer and hearst papers toned down in response to ethics concerns, courts became less comfortable second-guessing news decisions by journalists. they began to trust journalists. so my argument is that at that point and later, you had courts backing off and effectively saying, who are we to second-guess what trained journalists have decided is newsworthy? so it started a golden era for journalism that in the 1890's, no one wanted to be a journalist, it was a distasteful profession, certainly for the elite. and then by the 1930's, mickey mouse stard his own newspaper. there is a book for ki

journalism and to the role of truth. in empowering an engaged community. but this all goes back of you know well before of that's me trying to get a source on the phone. there's all those back you know well before president with you know it it's you twitter finger and all of that- and so i wanted to spend a little bit of time. analyzing how we got- really when it comes to this field that i work in- so i've been a journalist all my life and- when i started out i was living in germany where i was born and we spent a lot of time- in italy. well and in those. that i am the memory of fast. and j. by and war. alive you know all the old people around me had. living memories of these things that had been you know participants. were affected by them in some way or not. and that gave me. a real. creation of how fragile democracy can be. and how. did you rip it is up to not fight for it- at every step the **** when they took power one of the very first things like all these other autocrats they went after the press and they melted down. printing presses and you know

newspapers like the wall street journal don't change hands very often.view with rupert murdoch. i remember they said, come on over. >> and so i walked down 6th avenue and went to the news corp building into the belly of the beast. and there were newspapers everywhere. that's the thing i remember actually more than anything. he had almost every newspaper lined up on the wall. and i think he read them. he was so knee-deep in the family dynamics of the bancroft family and who liked who and who wanted to screw who and who was going to kill who and how you were basically going to split these people apart. of course, he told us repeatedly, i'm not here to break up the family. i think my family should meet with their family. he was a family man who had been a steward of his media companies and he really wanted to be able to prove to them that he was just like them, just like the bancrofts. >> the bancrofts finally agree that they're going to sit down with rupert murdoch. >> the bancroft family is meeting with rupert murdoch today to discuss news corp's $5 billi

i never took a journalism class, not once.to a college of one where i was the only student and the professor was simply the best of his generation. [laughter] [applause] folks, that was the best education you could imagine. i have to think, the first chief of cnn, sam, to george washington, for seeing something in me. and to walker for putting the resume on the top of the pile. i will never forget how candy stroud, cnn's first state department, welcomed me to washington. i will be forever grateful to george's first choice as bernie's writer, who decided to take that payraise and stay at w jail atv. wj l.a. tv. judy shared, we were working, june 1, 1980. in 1981, bernie and i had an intern named pat reed. [laughter] [applause] who went on to a distinguished career at the bureau and is now with the washington post. pat and i took bernie to lunch at the inn. we spent a wonderful few hours reminiscing, and when it was over, pat found the perfect words. he later observed, we met bernie when he was a respected journalist, and he was

i said, journalism should be chasing journalism. this is not a journalist.a very simple moment. hey, there's a new addition. they are shown a movie by 28 panfilovites, at that time it was a very fresh film, quite interesting and instructive. here. eh, after watching i ask a question i liked the film i liked it, well, i say, if i walked past the cinema with a girl and saw a poster, i would go in. patriotism again. this is an element. this is an integral part of what we must do with our population. in our children, patriotism should be brought up for our country, love is blood. would n't they come into this cinema young people, because they need something else, they don't need scary, both about war and about death. they also need to join the army , he looked at it. look, he was saturated with a certain thing, i can express again one more such thought, as he says all the peppers are one. here, look. the leader always has two tasks. the first task is to set this task. and the second is to control the mouth. we now have only one story to set a task for the countr

there are a lot of books out there criticalal of the performance of the media and the journalism industry. why do we need another one and what is different about yours? >> i guess hopefully it's got some jokes in it and hopefully it is an engaging read. i hope i as a journalist do not have much interest in media criticism. i have a joke about it it's hazardous. you need specialized equipment and it's best left to the professionals so there's good media criticism and i think most media criticism is trashed and most is indicative of the problem i'm trying to talk about in the book that is a refuge for partisan we don't want to talk about what our side did so let's talk about the coverage of what our side. so this is not my happy place. but i had an experience professionally and i think we are also having an experience professionally as citizens that this stuff is even the changes that have gone through in the past 20 years it's been a lot. there's beenng a lot going on ad at the time when people are hungry for the learning curve to stephen and for us to get better faster. >> you talk about

the african journal is the result of a true cultural exchange. this journal is made of colorful african fabrics been cut to look like traditional bavarian gob. it's the work of sister's mother ye dental wish. and i'm a veteran from cameron. there label, no ne has been designing dental african since 2010 in unit 9. and whatever my mother was at taylor herself, and i come from a dynasty of taylors, i crawled around in fabrics as a child, the fabric is what i know my mother used to, so my clothes and cameron, that's what we nails i, this was vick, hadn't the inspiration for they cross didn't come just from their mother, even their great grandmother and grandmother were taylor's. and although the sisters have been living in germany for 40 years, they still deeply connected to the african culture. that that's what i love about my work is that we connect people and i'm a connection myself. my father is occurred and my mother is from cameroon. and i connect, i don't divide added, i feel our work with turned dolls is going in just the right direction. we

and in regional journalism.rum to strengthen ties between regional media holdings of belarus and russia in order to exchange the latest developments in the protection of journalists in content promotion, to find out who to cooperate with in order to promote content on major russian new platforms , we look there. with yub who is this does? what algorithms work there so that we have an opportunity, if suddenly one of us is finally pressed into the space of american or transnational hosting and portals, so that we can exist there and continue to develop there. well, that's exactly what we talked about with our russian colleagues. they are waiting. this is indicative of this, ivan mikhailovich chasemann says about what popularity, for example, the youtube channel and galaxy of the radio company has among the russian audience. for them, this is very important and necessary. and at we had a journalist from ukraine who said that ukrainian ukrainians. and german the only thing e. we have now also raised this question at

what draws you to stories of investigative journalism? >> with "spotlight," i think we had the chance to really examine one case. it was very much a procedural. we didn't have a lot of real estate to get into the personal lives of the journalists and really get an understanding of who these people are and what makes them tick. i think after that film, the idea was always in my brain. when i thought of the kind of setup for the show, that's something i wanted to explore. take the time not just to explore the work they do, but who are these people. >> you know, i have a source on the board of the alaska investment fund. i can check with him, see what's up. >> you guys are good together. >> who? >> you make a great team. >> i'm going to go make that call. >> cool. thanks. >> reporter: while fictional, the show is inspired by newsrooms across the country, with local paper at the forefront. a report published by the "anchorage daily news" team titled "lawless" caught tom mccarthy's attention. >> it's a long-term investigation into systemic and

you went to enter the faculty of journalism, and chose military journalism. didn’t velma want to serve in the navy, and there it was a separate school in the soviet union where, and besides the fact that journalists were interpreted, there was also a naval department, a military-political internship, a troop conducted a naval internship in the fleet, a commemorative one called a ship. to find was a military university involves an army order drill. ah, command orders. but what about the freedom of creativity, the flight of thought? how did it all fit together? well? the witches said all this, yes, but her watch was combined, it wasn’t so bad for me on the ears, but in the head it was pricking the fish and being a creative person, because this is your future profession and at the same time with him. well, there is a phenomenon about porado discipline. as you said, so these are the internal processes that have been folded. and i want to say that in our school wilmeshmar or after graduating, and on my course, many of them are asking for the literature of russian

in traditional news and journalism _ film. in traditional news and journalism you _ film.r in and out for a few hours, day ortwo. i had helicopter in and out for a few hours, day or two. i had the luxury of being able to tell the story over months, we have over 1000 hours of footage that we culled together into a 96 minute film stop at the end of the day we are all trying to tell a story. the day we are all trying to tell a story-— tell a story. it's very nice what you _ tell a story. it's very nice what you do _ tell a story. it's very nice what you do with - tell a story. it's very nice what you do with your. tell a story. it's very nice i what you do with your work tell a story. it's very nice - what you do with your work that it he is an approachable man sensitive to the lives of others. in his previous films including in cartel land which focused on the mexican drug trade and in city of ghosts which followed syrian journalists operating under cover. he always got good access to compelling individuals to tell a bigger story. he does the same with retrograde. fist story.

in post journalism is a strong emotional connection with your audience. in the old days is top down. we have information we are going to deliver it to you. what either going to sell the attention you're paying us to advertisers or you're going to pay us a subscription and that will give you access to the information we have. now the energy goes the other direction which is the audience has feelings, out to people of so many feelings oh my gosh. and they have strong feelings and they want to see their feelings reflected back at them from the outlets or providers they choose. and these podcast and i have a podcast and i work for the dispatch which is on some stack. i'm certainly not exempt from them. this is even narrower. it's sort of like when you get together a group of libertarians for in to aer group of libertarians together with guys like no, no, no i am actually like eight social welfaresa libertarian it was okay with base and you're likely what? i thought you guys were libertarians. no, this is the niche of the niche of the niche that i'm in politic

"wall street journal" deep dive.housands of top government officials caught trading stocks in the same companies they enforce. plus this green fail, electric car charging stations and batteries spontaneously exploding into uncontrollable fires but california, home to a lot of wildfires, they're keeping their voters in the dark about that in their new push to go all electric. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: we begin with a wild day on wall street, stocks rally in a dramatic turn around. there was heavy buying of the dip. it was a volatile session. investors basically shrugging off another brutal read on inflation, hotter than expected. now we got core cpi hit a new record high. it is the biggest annual increase in that number in 40 years. now markets are fully pricing in an expected 75 basis point rate hike next month. we've got a lot at that took at that you about tonight. edward lawrence at the white house with more. edward? reporter: liz, that overall number, that was rea

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you went to enter the faculty of journalism, and chose military journalism. why didn't velma want to freshen up the navy, and there it was a separate school in the soviet union, where the border was that they straightened journalists. there was also a naval branch of the military-political. as i understand it, yes, i am writing a military internship ; finding a military university involves an army order preparation. ah, command orders. but what about the freedom of creativity, the flight of thought? how did it all fit together? well, i didn’t say that, yes, but her hours were combined, the violation was not so big for me, but in the corner it was colitising fish and remaining a creative person, because this is your future profession at once with him. well, there is his phenomenon about discipline. it's time , as you said, so these are the internal processes that have been folded. and i want to say that our school wilmeshmar or the chatter of a writer left e after graduation and in my course, many people are asking for the literature of russian literature and

" for years. >> as beat reporter at the "wall street journal", it just became the air we breathe. [ laughter ] >> rupert murdoch does something, which was kind of mind blowing, he makes a hostile bid for dow jones, the company that owns "the wall street journal". it is a public company, but it is controlled by a family, the bancroft's. >> the bancroft family has owned dow jones for over 100 years. it is an old, new england family . they are pretty buttoned up. the posture of that family has always been, this paper is not for sale, we are dedicated to its future. >> rupert murdoch is widely, and he understood something about this family that i am not sure others had appreciated, which was, maybe because of his own family, that you can break them up. >> murdoch makes an unsolicited offer for the company. this enormous price, $60 a share, which is $5 billion. it is far above the value of what the paper is. he initially sent this offer over privately. very soon after murdoch's bid arrives, they meet as a family. this family does not get together very often. they are three generations,

the african journal is the result of a true cultural exchange. this journal is made of colorful african fabrics been cut to look like traditional bavarian gob. it's the work of sisters, mother ye, dental wish. and i'm a veteran from cameron there label. no, ne has been designing dental african since 2010 im unique man and whatever my mother was at taylor herself and i come from a dynasty of taylors. i crawled around and fabrics as a child in the fabric is what i know my. my mother used to so my clothes and cameron, that's what we nails, alyssa, ca, katanen. the inspiration for. they cross didn't come just from their mother. even their great grandmother and grandmother were tailors. and although the sisters have been living in germany for 40 years, they still deeply connected to the african culture. that's. that's what i love about my work is that we connect people and i'm a connection myself. my father is occurred and my mother is from cameroon. and i connect, i don't divide added, i feel our work with turned dolls is going in just the right dire

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he was what award for excellent journalism he was receiving. but he he gave a stern talking to to a group of very how do we say now legacy or elite media outlets gave them a stern talking to about the fact that what have to do our work is objectivity our remove and we know that we won't be objective and we know that fairness is aspirational and a it's something we're not really going to obtain but it is our remove from the game that gives us the whatever power we do have and it could it can be true that donald trump represented a unique threat to the first amendment and free press in the united states that be true and at the same time it can be true that the press badly, badly botched its response to it because instead of elevating and going back to first principles and basics, many got down in the mud with him to wrestle. and that was a big mistake. the response back a lot of people in the media criticism established print if we can call it that for brian stelter, who's a reliable source, this program was so canceled by cnn in in august. is we

how much do you think about journalism? justified in general journalism has become my life. were, if you ask me, if there is a line between, uh, my personal life and my existence outside of work and my existence at work, then it does not exist. remember what your very first report was about. well, it turned out that this was not the first reportage. the first job was already in a news agency. i was the production editor. that is, well, how would it be, and it was a prompter. i had to put together an information release, that is, select the necessary information, and check everything eyeliners that the journalists wrote to fold the information folder way absolutely. here is the work of uh in uh on release. this is a very difficult job, because there have been cases when, for example, a cassette was transported to you from the council of the republic, then there was still a cassette, when there was only a cameraman for a journalist. there was no. they give you cassettes, they say, here is the release. after conditionally 30 minutes , do something and you have to listen to her

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i think my first foray into journalism was while i was at university.ident, i was sitting in my room and happily minding my own business as a first—year student. suddenly my doorflew open and the captain of the rugby team was thrown into my room completely naked. there was a marauding mob outside my window making a noise and i was pretty much put out by this. especially as they carried him upstairs and threw him into another room, still naked. i went to see the dean of my college and i said, i don't think this is on. and he said, "emma, boys will be boys." that must have got your goat? it would me. i decided to write an article for the guardian's women's page and they lapped it up. fantastic! presumably you were paid? yes, but i used a pseudonym because i didn't want to get in trouble. it taught me early on, the power, if you need to speak truth to power, in this case, the college authorities, there is a way of doing it. you were foreign correspondent at the ft, joined the times and then became the only second female editor of the sunday times, so does

there are a lot of books out there, critical of the performance of the media in the journalism industry. why do we need another one and what is different about yours? >> guest: well hopefully it's got some jokes in it. hopefully it is an engaging read. i is a journalist do not have much interest in media criticism. i have a about it which is that it's like an abatement. it's hazardous and you need specialized equipment. i think there is lots of good media criticism and most media criticism is indicative of the problem i talk about in this book which is that it's a refuge for partisan. we don't want to talk about the ideas of us talk about the coverage. this is not my happy place. i have a experience professionally and we are having a experience professionally which the stuff, the changes that have gone through our industry in the past 20 years it's been a lot. there has been a lot going on and it's a time where people are really hungry for the learning curve to deepen and for us to get better -- let's go you talk about at great length in the book what happens at "fox news" when you were

the african journal is the result of a true cultural exchange. this journal is made of colorful african fabrics been cut to look like traditional bavarian gob. it's the work of sister's mother ye devilish. and i'm a veteran from cameron there label. no ne has been designing dental african since 2010 in unit 9. and whatever my mother was a taylor herself, and i come from a dynasty of taylors, i crawled around in fabrics as a child. the fabric is what i know my mother used to, so my clothes and cameron, that's what we nails. alice was vic, hadn't the inspiration for they cross didn't come just from their mother, even their great grandmother and grandmother were taylor's, and although the sisters have been living in germany for 40 years, they still deeply connected to the african culture that's. that's what i love about my work is that we connect people and i'm a connection myself. my father is occurred and my mother is from cameroon. and i connect, i don't divide added, i feel our work with turned dolls is going in just the right direction. we use

breaking news for any wall street journal on a witness their mar-a-lago restoration.miliar with the matter, the justice department is interested in testimony from two aides to donald trump. one who might be able to provide information on whether missing government arguments were transported to a trump property other than mar-a-lago. that witness will russell, served in the trump white house including as according to presidential travel, and went on to work for the former president in florida after he left office. the journal reports federal officials have expressed concern about whether trump took documents on flights you traveled from mar-a-lago to his other properties in new york in new jersey. according to a person familiar with the matter, mr. trump declined to comment on the matter. the new york times previously named the other witness, watch nowata, the navy veteran. sources say he told sources he moved documents at mar-a-lago before the federal search the property. surveillance video showed him doing that. they have not responded to nbc's news's request for com

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. >> there are a lot of books books out there critical of the performance of the media and the journalism industry . why do we need another one and what difference is it of yours? well, i guess hopefully it's got some jokes and. hopefully it is an engaging and i hope and grossing read. i think i as journalists do not have much interest in media criticism. it is not, i have a joke about witches that it's like it's asbestos abatement. it's hazardous, you need specialized equipment and is best left to the professionals so i think there's lots of good media criticism. i think most media criticism is trash and most media criticism is indicative of the problem i'm strying to talk about in this book which is a refuge for partisans. we don't want to talk about what our site did solet's talk about the coverage of what our site did . this is not my happy place. but i had a weird experience professionally and i think we're all sort of having a weird experience professionally or as citizens which is this stuff is, the changes that have gone through our industry in the past 20 years he spent a lot. th