we hope it's a part of the future for journalism. we don't think there's one future for journalism.rtant thing journalists are doing. you know, sometimes, when we start, you know, i think we're a competitive group of people and soÑiçó"f basically we think the country could stand to have more data literacy. a lot of what does, including journalism, and we're trying to push that ball further. >> charlie: i assume your success means the country does certainly want more data. >> i was at a dinner with the c.e.o. of a big american company, american industrial company and he said, you know, i see my business now as a data business first and foremost. >> charlie: meaning i have to analyze data and know the information to understand the competitive world -- >> and, you know, i think we're just at the very crest of this hill. it's going to take a long time to get there. it has to do with the educational system. it has to do with perhaps immigration and things like that. so we have lots of data and not a heck of a lot of idea what to do with all of it, so that's the very big problem we hope

journalism?>> right here, right now. >> we are and we aren't. i am sure everybody at this webe, they are on the moving at the speed of the web, being sassy or that you could be in that new york times, but always doing your stories based on high standards that are very similar to what you have at the journal or the times. our reporters are terrific and they know their stories will hold until we get the right sourcing. andlayer on top of that ability to have a voice and it is much more liberating than what you get. >> liberating is the word. >> we get to do what we want, we also have standards. we are moving journalism to the next phase by bringing along all of the old standards that are good and leaving behind the ones that are not. embracing the new way of delivering. it is more like three delivering journalism in a way that is more interesting to readers. nate is a good example of this. all kinds of needs that consumers have. it is not that they do not love good content, they just want it in dif

i am optimistic about the state of american journalism. tremendous changes in journalism. journalism has taken a great hit. we lost hundreds of journalists, circulations have plummeted, advertising revenues have plummeted, investigative journalism still prides, look at the pulitzers and you see a world of investigative journalism out there. hersh being one of many. the question is for my point of view will anyone ever do what at the 11 has done? no one will produce the range of scoops. the reason is i can't see anyone being as indignant or as angry or indefatigable as sy has been for 40 years. and he still continues to have a anchor at the conditions that he sees. one more closing segment that in some ways typifies sy hersh. anchor is what fuels hersh. he is as one of this suggests a man on fire. the word morality or immorality is not part of the debate. too often it is not even on the pages. hersh is unabashed in describing when he thinks is the job of the reporter. description that if you follow the arc of his career and this book mirrors his work, quote i have been at i

of journalism. he said, sticking to what i said i will not sit down for any time to talk about myself. i am not the story. it is not allow me. what i write about. i am not the person you should be focusing on. we left friendly. he stuck to his guns and never really sat down and tell me put this book deal of oil last conversations were over one of the questions of began with. the last conversations were about what he is up to today. what is the up to today. he is working on a very big book dick cheney, george bush, barack obama, a covert intelligence. he was close to writing the book when someone drop this trove of documents in his lap. he had to expand the scope. it is worse than we ever tugboat the book is gone from just being about pushed to obama, and i suspect some we will see headlines and sey hersh going across the country printing his latest tax was about the bush, obama foreign policy. what does it did with the revolutions of the leaking of material by edward snowden? he has been the recipie

of journalism. he said, sticking to what i said i will not sit down for any time to talk about myself. i am not the story. it is not allow me. what i write about. i am not the person you should be focusing on. we left friendly. he stuck to his guns and never really sat down and tell me put this book deal of oil last conversations were over one of the questions of began with. the last conversations were about what he is up to today. what is the up to today. he is working on a very big book dick cheney, george bush, barack obama, a covert intelligence. he was close to writing the book when someone drop this trove of documents in his lap. he had to expand the scope. it is worse than we ever tugboat the book is gone from just being about pushed to obama, and i suspect some we will see headlines and sey hersh going across the country printing his latest tax was about the bush, obama foreign policy. what does it did with the revolutions of the leaking of material by edward snowden? he has been the recipie

"washington journal" live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> the house and senate return from recess on monday. we join by billy house of national journal. the house getting to work almost right away on a couple of fiscal year 2515 appropriation -- 2015 appropriations bill. in that is an extension of pay freeze. do you expect to hear any opposition. >> there has been some lonely voices who say it's time. lord help them. maybe it's time to alter that. this is an midterm election year. one of the odd positions that a lot of members might take on campaign trail is they need more money. >> one of the pieces in the past week was headlined in the national journal. house republicans see opportunity in appropriations bill about some of the possibilities of adding policy writers to the spending bills. >> the top line spending levels will be set. color battles to be fought within the appropriations bills themselves. they are done every year. they are called policy writers. they technically temporary one year pieces of language that

anyone interested in journalism and investigative journalism and muckraking journalism couldn't miss sy hersh. in 1986 he made headlines in the new york times. worked at the time 72-79, left to right e-book on henry kissinger but did some free-lance stuff and free-lance work for the new york times. in 1986, remember the name manuel noriega? he was the president of panama. sometimes called the panamanian thug, three presidential administrations actually had him on their payroll and he was supporting american policy but also running drugs, running guns, killing his opponents, yet he was america's allied. hersh find out about this and write about in a page-1 story in the new york times. panama strongman said to trade in drugs on illicit money, seymour hersh. i know i am beginning to zero in and say i got to do something about this guy because the top of the things says hersh weil because i was beginning to stop the file with all sorts of stuff on seymour hersh. somebody has got to do this guy's biography at some point in time. in the year 2004, i wrote a biography of a not forgotten but

people find themselves nowadays in the position of committing acts of journalism. they get help from professional journalist sometimes and they don't other times. that needs to be a position that is supported so the people who are in that position make better choices. when i look at not just wiki leaks but other places that have taken on the burden of what was once more traditional journalism , i don't see a system that should be adversarial to traditional journalism, it should be cooperative. we all have the same common goal, which is informing the making theing -- decisions the public is required to make in a democracy. right now this is all kind of out of whack. because the things we are talking about, what we have to do to do our jobs. right now, i think i'm in a really interesting position with a chilling effect myself because i have taken a break from the active reporting because it is just so much work. i'm doing a lot more reflective and analytical work right now, and to be honest, that's because i just need down time. when you are reaching the edge of huma

it's usually in journalism. it's unlikely that someone coming up in a system that is going to be educated in a mostly liberal mostly secular higher education system in this country is suddenly a lightbulb is going to go off and are going to have a worldview that's any different than the world in which they have been indoctrinated. education should play a huge role but from the early stage we put them in public universities are journalists in particular and outgoing to public institutions that are secular that don't have a christian worldview so it's unlikely that those institutions are going to change that pattern. >> i'm a citizen journalist with watchdog. certainly there are rivals. could you talk about "fox news" versus cnn and contrast that to christian broadcast network? thank you very much. >> "fox news" not christian news orientation i will say that and what the christian broadcast network is doing and not terribly familiar with it. i think it's a step in the right direction. the christian broadcast netwo

that gives the potential for the rise of the citizen journalism.hey are equipped with digital media and mobile technologies, but they can actually get engaged with the event very, very easily and then they can upload, disseminate and send it globally. >> twitter and facebook are indicators of news that's happening. now, what people use really, they go to twitter and they know that there is for example a coup d'etat somewhere. what is the next thing they do? they go to a website, either television, radio or newspaper, which is structured, organizational to make sense of what's happening. >> when there is nothing happening, news is not breaking, that is where the cracks in the 24/7 news format begin to show. >> plenty here, none of it news. >> last july, reporters camped outside a london hospital. >> game on, this is the moment everyone's been waiting for. >> they were awaiting the birth of a royal baby. >> behind me, the most watched doors in the world. >> 1bbc reporter decided to tell it like it is. >> until then, we're going to be speculating abou

"washington journal," live at 7 a.m. eastern on c-span. let's take a case like hsbc, which got a $1.9 billion settlement levied at them i think a year ago. that, part of it was the deferred prosecution agreement for hsbc. they admitted they had laundered for drugs $850 million cartels. not only did they commit minor financial infractions, technical infractions, we are talking about an organization that was operating at the top of the legal narcotics pyramid. this is a major criminal enterprise, and they admitted it . and if they did not find any evidence to put those people in jail, that's on them. that's a failure of the regulatory system. if you have somebody you know is guilty, who has admitted they in leaguey, who are with truly dangerous and violent people and helping them out with the worst kinds of behavior that a bank could be involved with, and nobody does a single thing to be in jail? that's outrageous, but it's even more outrageous when you look at it in comparison with who goes to jail in america, and that is people who who are

politicians and society tends to be rather cynical about journalism. but i see enormous bravery, enormous challenge, great courage going on to surface things that the public really needs to know about. >> journalists go towards danger when others move away. journalists have to get involved with all sides of the conflict in order to get the story. >> it takes a very fearless journalist to get up every day and say, "you know what? i'm determined to continue my profession, even though i may have to spend the rest of my life looking over my shoulder". >> [radio] line 'em all up. come on, fire! >> i came here in 2003, i came to cover the us-led invasion, i got here about three weeks before the bombing campaign started. and i stayed for the next couple of years working on and off. i came because i thought the war was going to be covered pretty heavily in the western media from the position of embedded journalists. you know, if i was going to take any risk at all, i'd rather take the risk making a story that wasn't being told. and i was concerned that the ira

how do you gauge in free journalism -- you engage in free journalism if the government is collectionh metadata to know every person who's how canating with you? attorneys investigate important details on behalf of their clients? how can informants talk to human rights organizations and to do so with the security that they won't be exposed? it has extreme publications for -- ramifications and range of core liberties, including the ones that americans -- it is important to our political freedom. i think that is critical. encryption is vital but it doesn't shield metadata. it shields content. anonymity tools, you can see -- shield some forms of metadata. it is a threat to freedoms. people warned that investigative journalism is coming to a standstill in the country because of what the government is doing. they mean that is become unnecessary to do that because the climate now because of this ubiquitous surveillance makes it almost impossible to be an investigative journalist because it makes it impossible for people to communicate with one another. >> edward snowden has praised russia "f

none of this one-sided journalism that you see on other channels. for us its both sides. the journalists were posted to cairo in the immediate aftermath of coup that no one wishes to call the coup. the army overthrew the morsi >> they were odds with us, the fact that we called it a coup before other news organizations did. >> the white house and congress angive egypt money every year, o they are away in a different situation. but our three journalists have been reporting. what they've been doing is reporting false news. that's the way they phrase it, false news. they accuse them of having links with the maui under the new administration in cairo has been named a terrorist organization. the al jazeera media organization say the allegations are simply absurd. so now you have a situation where this is threatening the freedom of speech and the work that journalists do, good honest journalists in countries like egypt. journalists around the world have joined in sol dare eight with us today in a little protest to keep this on the international news agenda ahead of the reopening

journalism is not a crime. we may have different standards, but the fundamentals of free speech, and the ability to work unhindered is something that links us together. and of course the audience and public around the world believe that. we know from our own research that people are increasingly concerned around the world about the reduction of media. that unites us. >> can this, the picture of silence, pictures are being beamed around the world, can it make a difference from happens here? is that possible that that will causmake a difference in their release. we're hearing from governments from around the world who are being influenced by the media pressure that is brought to bear. whether or not being certain it will happen is no excuse. we need to stand and be counted. >> coincidently, that was not the only relevant event going on here at bbc. there is an july symposium that happens to fall on the 100th day of the journalists detention in egypt. that symposium is looking into the safety of journalists worldw

"the journal" said so., she had to deal with constant white house interruption and interference. anybody want to take that one on? joe? >> i'll agree with you, actually. i think in some ways she has gotten a bat rap. as you say, all the major decisions were centralized in the white house now. >>> this is a fox news alert. hello, everyone. in new york. we are getting reports of multiple shootings at a jewish community center in overland park, greater kansas city, before reportedly moving to an assisted living center which is nearby. which report is coming one day before passover, which begins tomorrow at sundown. we're getting details. as wets them we'll bring them to you at fox news. i'll be live at 3:30. in the meantime back to the journal report. she didn't tell him that her college expenses were going up. or that she maxed out her card during spring break. when the satellite provider checked his credit, he found out his daughter didn't pay her bills. but he's not worried. now he checks his credit report

the line between politics and journalism gateway becoming increasingly blurred.s more and more people cross it, the state in israel gateway facing questions on its role as a power >> an interview in 2006, about two months later, he welcomed her into the labor party. so people said the interview was very soft and very complementing because she was already planning her moved in to politics. >> now, there is distrust and basically, i think, it's a positive thing. >> obviously, when a journalist moves to politics, he hurts his own profession. they say you have a hidden agenda. it is a major problem. unfortunately, most of my friends left journalism for politics in a matter of a few weeks, which gateway a profit at this timetution of the profession. >> that's why they are the least trusted professions in israel >> that was confirmed in a study late last year by the institute for israeli democracy on public trust and state institutions >> at the bottom of the pile, journalists and politicians separated only by israel's religious leaders >>isitionis do trust the media,

at the journalism, the people who went into journalism was a very different group of people. way back when even before my father's time journalism was a trade more than a profession. you went despite when you were 16 or 17 years old almost like carpentry. you went in as a copy boy or news boy and stayed in and you learned it -- and they had a chip on their shoulders. they were sardonic. they relished this role of being this oppositional force that represented the people and represented the rest of society and kind of when they got a chance to stick it to the men, -- stick it to the man, they never passed that chance. and then some were along the line that changed. journalism became kind of a superstar profession. maybe it was after woodward and burnstein. i don't know what it was. but this new class of people started to come into the profession and it was upper league, upper class kids who wanted to -- and what they were attracted to wasn't so much that old role that i saw growing up around my dad and his friends, but the role of being close, having some proximity to famous,

the group also won a george polk journalism award last week. in a statement, snowden honored the journalist involved saying -- and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!,

national journal reports there are more caucuses than there are members of congress, including things like the bourbon caucus, the hockey caucus, there's a caucus for you. you name it. that number skyrocketed in recent years. in 1993, there were just over 100. national journal reports average house members belong to 34 caucuses while senators belong to about 18. just filling up the yearbook with all those clubs. this is it, folks. voting begins for the final four of our tdr contract challenge. two kennedys made it this far. today ben franklin faces off against ted kennedy and tomorrow is bobby kennedy against hillary clinton. go to rundown on msnbc.com to vote. salesperson #2: actually, getting a great car with 42 highway miles per gallon makes it like two deals in one. salesperson #1: point is there's never been a better time to buy a jetta tdi clean diesel. avo: during the first ever volkswagen tdi clean diesel event, get a great deal on a jetta tdi. it gets 42 highway miles per gallon. and get a $1,000 fuel reward card. it's like two deals in one. volkswagen has the most tdi clean

some people would say all kinds of journalism is activism. i think that one reassurance here, i done know if there is a line but in this case, what we saw was a collaboration as i said that included professional journalists at the highest standards, "the washington post," the guardian. these are very responsible news organizations. so has a news organization leak the guardian ever received a pulitzer prize before. >> strictly speaking that want to the guardsian u.s. that is how it fit the rules but as we all know the guardian which is based in the united kingdom as been doing very aggressive journalism on this. and you know in some ways interesting lee teng-hu teng-hui-- interestingly, the collaboration helped it avoid censorship in the united states-- i mean in the u.k. because the reach of this journalism has been so to we areful. >> ifill: so interesting, again evera overholzer, thank you so much for helping us through this. >> thank you so much, gwen. >> woodruff: again, the major developments of the day. the government of ukraine appeale

"washington journal" continues.ve bell of the bipartisan policy center, does america have a savings policy. guest: very serious. most people underestimate how little americans are saving. the one trend you recognize right off the bat is a downward trend. it has not just been because of the recession. there has been a trend for the last 40 years and this country. even though people are getting older at a faster rate, 10,000 to 12,000 people take medicare every day. rate has gone down. at the same time, our big social programs, social security, disability insurance, are running out of money. i know people do not like to hear that. have a they believe they trust fund with their name on it and there is an account at treasury, which is not true. right now, social security is actually paying out more in benefits every month that it takes in a new taxes. onannot -- that cannot go forever. in two years, the disability insurance fund will become insolvent and congress will have to do something. between personal savings decli

that's what journalism has changed.sometimes give people what they want aopposed to what we need. >> we need you back. you have a couple of events coming up. >> mother's day walk against cancer. my belief is talking about cancer won't kill us, the silence will. let's get people in the street to show us all we're here to deal with. that's may 11th. and you can find all of the information and you can register on our website. you can see it there, latinas contra cancer.org and our national latino cancer summit to share what we know and collaborate and find outweighs we can bring this back to the community so we can begin to make changes in their lives at that level. >> this isn't a backyard conference. this is -- >> that's not backyard conference. this is in fact our fourth year. it can be international depending on who's engaged. and we've had 750 participants, about a quarter of them are researchers and they bring the information. remember when we talk about you didn't know it might have been farm worker exposure, absolu

it is my journal goldberg.ay criticism is racially motivated by the notion that the media would take it any other way does not pass the laugh test. he writes that holder's hypocrisy is stunning. there is nothing special about a rough time holder has received. janet reno and john ashcroft never got cake and ice cream from opponents. the best recent comparison is alberto gonzales,, george w. bush's second attorney general. i do not recall gonzales insinuating that efforts were anti-latino. holder has earned his contempt by refusingcitation to provide documents tha in fast and furious. even inside the white house, holder is considered too political. he quotes an unnamed white house official according to "the washington post." that is a story that just came out today in the national review online. carolyn in towson, delaware. good morhining. caller: i think that he is -- he fails when it comes to going after the banksters on wall street. be guy out west, he should -- they should go after that guy with all barrels.

here's a story from "the wall street journal." it talks about the slain soldiers, remembered as heroes. the three slain by the alleged shooter in that case before he took his own life. get your thoughts and comments as we go through the stories this morning. we also want to play you one more clip from the sunday shows. facefeiffer was on cbs's the nation. here is what he had to say. [video clip] fort hood we from have to do a lot more to make sure our men and women feel safe when they come home. this is a trier -- this is a terrible tragedy. they are actually going to travel down on wednesday. >> the president is going to the service? >> yes, sir. >> and going to be on wednesday. waiting inis district heights. he is a retired member of the militant terry -- of the military. good morning. caller: good morning. like to say that i don't think many politicians care too much about the troops. if they cared about the troops they would not care only when something like this happens. ony would not send them over these unnecessary missions

and i don't think the invasion of iraq is a proud moment for journalism. but there was great journalism done about the war in iraq and about torture, in the "new york times" and the "washington post" and the new yorker. so there always be journalists who will try to get to the truth. but there will also be the fact that large institutions that have relationships with governments are going to, you know, be persuaded by what the government thinks can and should be public. and i think the fact that the n.s.a. is now spying on congress and not releasing a report on torture, as u.s. citizens we should be ashamed. this is not a proud moment. so i don't think it's particularly radical or outsider to find these things objectionable. what i think is radical is that we're spying on congress or spying on entire countries and we're doing all this in secret. those things i think should be part of a public discourse. so i don't fell that i'm, i feel what we're doing as citizens and what our obligation to do if we have a voice, if we have skill sets that can contribute t

and i am talking about including mainstream journalism. i have seen it in "the "new york times"," the "los angeles times" but with firsthand witness, it was in my own case, it was related to things that really don't matter to anyone else >> what sort of personal things? >> celebrity-focus things and things like that. and i still am not somebody beliefs it's a price you pay and all of that. i think that's you do a job, you know, if you want to see me, see me in the movie theatre. so, i would say if you had come to me before a significant change in this view, i would have said there should be some restriction on the press. and god knows, i think a self-restrict in those areas. in the united states, so much of the press, you know, it creates a diseased culture, especially the celebrity aspect of it and the political culture. but when i went to iran in the week that weled to mahmoud ahmadinejad. and i saw the restriction on the press and people like the people that were awarded today risking their lives, i thought, you know, the only way to pr

did i think journalism in general is possible without break sources? i know ours would be impossible without the incredible courage of edward snowden. >> he came forward with information that allows us to know what is actually happening. so this award is really for edward snowden. >> journalists glenn greenwald and more portraits returned to the united states for the first time since breaking the edward snowden nsa story. they flew in from berlin, not knowing if they would be detained were subpoenaed after the u.s. government described journalists working on the nsa story as snowden and compasses. they flew in for the george polk awards. we will play their acceptance speeches and a news conference that followed. then we will be joined by matthieu aikens who won a george polk award as well for his rolling stone piece, "the a-team killings." >> the torture and action additional killings i wrote about in the story is routine among the afghan security forces we have trained. we're leaving behind a gangster state. >> all of that and more coming up. this is

washington journal is live on c-span every morning at 7:00 eastern. next, a discussion about virginia tech research on unmanned aerial drones. or e-mail. a good friday morning to you. we will be keeping our phones yourthis morning as we get thoughts on this question. domestic drones. tell us why. ew the meantime, this p research project finding came out. it notes that the legal and regulatory framework for operating nonmilitary drones is currently the subject of debate. part of the topic we are talking about today on the washington journal heard to help us discuss and get this topic going, we are bringing in brian fong of the washington post heard he is a technology writer there. start us off by talking about what the rules are for commercial drone use. the faa is working on more clear rules about drones. that is set up a situation where it is actually legal for commercial drones to be used at low altitudes for minor purposes. in the industry say that the faa needs to more speedily develop clear rules that need to be applied to commercial drones in a

next.ngton journal" is host: good morning. it's the washington journal for april 5. or youe-hour program f today. we want to hear from you about your local newspaper. if they are still relevant in your used readin news reading h. reporting lower ad revenues, layoffs for local staff. your local paper -- if you still read it or still get something from it. maybe even ways to improve it. rfou 02) 585-3880 eastern and central time zone. for mountain and pacific time zones. you can reach out to us on twitter, post on our facebook e-mail, too. us an in the spirit of the question today, we decided to take an informal survey among the staff here to talk about their local newspapers and show you a bit about what they are covering and how they focus. if you turn to the forum of north dakota, the north dakota state university -- the effectiveness of the investment and how compares to other state universities. if you look at the freelance star of fredericksburg, virginia, a story broke out of chief in that county. theou turned the pages of times tribune of florida, talking about

that is all tomorrow on "washington journal."l and with the president's easter and passover greeting in his weekly address. ♪ [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] >> today "newsmakers" with tim: pam pawlenty. later, he refused to reveal his cia sources to the government. he is part of a discussion on conflict is when the press and government. -- between present government.

at national journal. thanks for being with us. >> good morning. >> you had a interesting piece that said foreign policy is vengeance in h a 2016. when you think of locations you don't usually think of foreign policy. through that. guest: you only have to look at the republican jewish coalition some of the leading candidates on the republican side spoke in las vegas. christie, john kay sick, general bush all focused on policy themes all critical of president obama's handling of foreign policy. you look at the broader picture with the challenges president obama's administration facing with russia, the civil war worsening in syria, looming the negotiations with iran over nuclear weapons, sort of ae 2016 being drop dead point for a lot of these challenges for a new and new campaign and you look at even on the emocratic side hillary clinton in various speechers the last month has been sounding a more ton than president obama when it comes to russia in oneng putin to hitler speech and raising the stakes on ran

. >> the front page of the wall street journal says that these talks are endangered.he wall street journal says that eight months of talks trying to bring israelis and palestinians to the negotiation table says that these -- talks to bring israelis and palestinians together are near collapse. john kerry lashed out and said he would read -- seek further u.n. support unless a prisoner release by israel went ahead. -- abbas lashed out and said he would seek further you in support unless a prisoner release by israel went ahead. jonathan pollard is an american who was accused of spying for israel three decades ago. the obama administration has floated a proposal to release him in exchange for israel's continued participation in the ongoing peace process. this is scheduled to end on april 29. this, according to the daily beast, is a character to make sure that israel stays in the negotiation, but this article has an exclusive, this proposal is facing a bipartisan backlash from congress, that both the democratic and republican heads of the senate intelligence committee are s

you can also e-mail us at journal@c-span.org.le we're waiting for you to dial-in, i want to show you a story from political this politico- from yesterday evening from the nra meeting in indianapolis on friday. the story noted six essential republican candidates for allegianceledged the to the second amendment. those six include rick santorum, a runner-up for the 2012 nomination, louisiana governor bobby jindal, indiana governor mike pence, senator marco rubio, senator ted cruz, and scott walker sending in a video message as well. governor scott walker. that happening in indianapolis this weekend. another story from that event newspaper,ill" senator mitch mcconnell to the nra -- i will expand gun rights in a republican-led senate is the headline there. woulded friday that he work to expand the right of gun owners if he was given the opportunity to lead a new senate majority next year. speaking at that convention in indianapolis, mcconnell said he would work on behalf of legislation providing new privacy protections to gun owners.

i read "the new york times" every day, and "the wall street journal." i don't get my information off the internet, like everybody else does. i think i know a lot more than people who do get it off the internet, but that's a matter of personal opinion. >> you also mentioned to me earlier that you've noticed a difference in the reaction you've gotten in the last handful of weeks, between people who email you on the one hand and people who comment about you on twitter on the other hand. would you share that with everybody? >> it's very interesting. i've received a huge number of letters and emails, all very supportive of my position, 100%. the twitters are all pretty negative, and it's an age difference. older people use email and younger people twitter. >> my last question for you tom. you were asked -- >> when they're not playing video games. [laughter] >> you were asked recently in a television interview if you feel you're connected to reality. during that interview, you talked about your expensive watch and the yacht that you used to own. your response

on c-span 3. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we head back to the virginia tech laboratory, where woolsey.ned by craig we have talked a lot about the future today. can you talk about the history of drones? was this borne out of hobbyists or military? where did this start? guest: there has been a confluence from both directions. the military has been using these systems for decades. the first uses were aerial targets, really. unmanned systems were used for reconnaissance early in the vietnam war. some would say the earliest was who flew oney, mile down the potomac river before the wright brothers had their first flight. hobbyists have developed their own technology for decades as well. really, being very innovative with that. recently, the miniaturization of electronics made it possible to do more. my graduatearch, students use a lot of products developed by innovators and hobby markets. there is a confluence leading to progress. host: talk about the difference between unmanned systems and autonomous aircraft. we are using t

moment for journalism. there was great journalism done about the war in iraq area there was great journalism done about torture. there are always going to be journalists who are going to try to get to the truth, but there that are goings to be persuaded by what the government things can and should be public. i obviously fundamentally disagree. the fact that the nsa is now spying on congress and not releasing a report on torture, we should be ashamed. this is not a proud moment. i don't think it's particularly radical to find these things objectionable. what i think his radical is we are torturing people and spying on congress or spying on entire countries. we are doing all this in secret. think should be part of the public discourse. i can tell what our obligation sets to have the skill introduce a greater understanding. that's our job. >> more than radical. it's unconscionable. do you think of your extraordinary work -- do you feel the tide is turning in some post-9/11this disorientation, this abuse of pow

"the journal" said so.nt white house interruption and interference. anybody want to take that one on? joe? >> i'll agree with you, actually. i think in some ways she has gotten a bad rep. as you say, all the major decisions were centralized in the white house now. kathleen sebelius was by all accounts a terrible internal manager. but on the other hand, as you say, she is implementing a bad law. and she doesn't have complete control over all the decisions. >> kim, i say -- go ahead, kim. >> no, i would disagree a little bit in that politics is about accountability. you step up for a job like this, you are the one that is responsible. and, in fact, you know, this resignation should have come a lot sooner than it did. >> okay. when we come back, former florida governor, jeb bush, making headlines with some controversial comments on immigration. will they hurt him with conservatives if he decides to run in 2016? i think the biggest value of truecar... was that it gave me... confidence to buy my very first car..

"washington journal," live at 7:00 a.m. on c-span. i remember the first conversation i had wasn't about where you're from or what your school is like but it was about ukraine. it was about politics and our believes on education and religion. that, i was like, wow, this week will be intense. it was cool to see the evolution of all our friendships and our bonds just from talking about politics. ribbon talking about our experiences and what we have learned in who we have met. this is an experience i will never forget. i can never really go that far in politics and politics is such a caustic environment. but throughout the week different speakers and people i've met have chipped away at that opinion. i thought maybe i do want to make a difference and run for something local and state local , because likey president obama said yesterday, he said don't get cynical. this nation doesn't need any more cynical people. things that gets brought up his social media. ourre able to express opinions very easily. we can send a tweet about what we thin