. >> live sunday, june 4, in-depth, author and journist will be our guest to talk and take calls but natural history and the origins of deadly viruses like ebola and hiv, contributing rider at national geographic has written many books including the reluctant mr. darwin and still overcome his latest is about the race to defeat the virus causing the covid-19 pandemic. join the conversation with your phone calls, facebook comments, and tweets. on book tv on c-span2. we continue our conversation on the debt limit and federal spending. we have the former white house budget director during the trump administration. what is your mission. guest: we try to keep the agenda focused on the america first issues we were working on the last administration. we try to keep it focused on improving us in keeping us together as a nation, security, big tech reform, voter validation and that's what we do. we are having a lot of progress around the country. host: america renewing.com is where people can find it. we've been talking about the state of negotiations and hearing about possible emerging deal. w

you're an award winning journist. i i'm not going to charge you on that.merican you are talk act, if i default, or come close to any of my credit cards, i'm not going to tell you how many i have, abby, i couldn't get close to that limit, and to talk about what my credit standing would look like, and the credit rating of the united states long term, heck that is not a consideration, who the average american says the government gets away with more than the electorate has. >> we have to give a nod to kevin moccarthy, and they were able to get to an agreement with reasonable frame work, which stands a chance for a frame work with a long term agreement here. you saw dick durbin, with time to sit down and talk, and to your point, i don't think most americans do think that. i think a lot of americans, post pandemic, there is forgiveness in rents, forgiveness in student loans, forgiveness in cell phone bills -- >> why do you forget ppp loans? >> i will say ppp loans. >> and members of congress -- >> i don't disagree. you have to go back and pay your bills. you hav