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>> well, let me go -- continue what joyce was saying because i agree with what both charlie and joyce said but i want to point in a little different direction. we faced the question of what to do when nixon resigned. he was no longer the sitting president and we were ready to indict him there. we were preempted by a pardon of gerald ford and a good lesson for right now from the impeachment committee, the judiciary. the chair was brilliant in bringing together the feuding democrats, there was a liberal group that wanted to indict or impeach the president nixon right away and then the other group that said, well, it could be a bad thing and then the republicans. and he brilliantly and a hanavie political issues and why it's a political process because you have to consider the politics of it. indictment is simply a legal question. and based on the mueller report, i would conclude that there is clearly an indictable crime if he weren't the president. i believe the president can be indicted so that's a possibility but for impeachment it is a political process to be judged by politics. >> w

on the law of it, joyce, is it legal to do? >> you know it's an interesting question and we wouldn't know a precise answer until we saw exactly what the president did. there's some question about whether isis can transport people further once they've caught them. could they actually transport them for hours. would that be some form of lawful detention? and then there will be questions about whether, for instance, sanctuary cities have first amendment rights and whether the president is punishing them for their exercise of those rights. this is all very speculative. this is new. this is unplowed territory. you want to say that it's dangerous for this administration, but nothing really seems to be dangerous. no matter how far trump goes stepping on these traditional norms and rights. he never seems to be accountable. >> we haven't even touched on the law which many of us thought was a lyric to woolly bully. how about the legality of offering a pardon? is that a problem? >> you know, we're back i suppose to this issue that we've d

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joyce, good to have you on twice.great treat for us. >> yes. >> thank you, joyce. >>> up next, after threatening to close the southern border all week, president trump retreats. now with a new warning ahead of his visit to the border tomorrow. we'll have that after the break. you're watching msnbc. r the bre. you're watching msnbc. >>> the biggest workplace immigration raid in more than a decade happened yesterday. they arrested more than 280 people at an electronics repair company in allen, texas, just north of dallas. it was an ongoing investigation into whether the company knowingly hired people illeg illegally. i.c.e. released a statement that rates in part -- all of the violators will be interviewed to record any medical, sole caregiver or other humanitarian situations, but went on to say, in all cases all illegal alien will be processed for removal from the united states. this afternoon president trump issued a warning to mexico over what he calls a crisis at our southern border, but now appear to be backing off

>> what -- i'm looking up to joyce vance. just want to -- always wanted to do it. >> we all look up to joyce. >> did something happen? >> the incredibleshrinking -- >> it's really weird being down here. >> see, welcome to life as a short person. my thanks to john, joyce, david, matt, and everyone else that joined us. thank you for watching. i'm nicolle wallace. "mtp daily" starts right now. >> listen, you guys just can't come on air latching when clearly he told some great joke that none of us are in on. >> wait, show chuck todd where he's sitting. look! >> come on, look. >> we can't show you. he's like a head shorter than joyce vance, who is about my height.

attorney joyce vance is at the table along the political analyst rick stengel. msnbc analyst john hileman is back. and donny deutsche is at the table. and "new york times" chief white house correspondent peter banker and caroline nash, reporter for "the washington post." >> the front pages of your papers, i thought of offering to frame them and deliver them to the museum myself this morning. for those of us covering this all day, i was on tv all day, it didn't hit me until i opened my door and saw your front pages just how seismic this shift was in terms of what we now know took place in the 2016 election on the part of russians and the one wittin unwitting conduct of trump and his aides. peter, let me start with you and the story you wrote for today's paper. >> its's a story his own aides tell. that's what's remarkable about this mueller report, the portrait of the white house comes from the people he chose to surround himself with, people like don mcghan, rob porter, reince priebus, corey lewandowski, and chris christie. these are people that told stories abou

joyce, your thoughts. for rod rosenstein to sort of close the letter with a wink and a nod, thanks for always putting america first, we know that president trump's jam. >> you know, deputy attorney general rosenstein is certainly speaking the president's language in this letter, his close-out letter with the administration. often, federal officials when they're resigning are provided with some sort of a template or a form. and the expectation is they'll follow along with that. we don't know if that's the case here, and certainly rod rosenstein could have said whatever he wanted to say in his resignation letter. this makes it pretty clear that he resigns as someone who is firmly in the president's camp during his service. >> well, someone else who appears to be firmly in president trump's camp is bill barr. that is why congress wants to talk to him specifically. the judiciary committee, what actually happens if barr stips a hearing? we can talk what he should do, what is precedent, but it's like "real world

attorney and msnbc contributor joyce vance joins you, and national analyst john hileman -- joyce is not with us. we're going to start with you, ashley. i'm going to read more of your colleague's report, which crossed our wires a few minutes ago. rod rosenstein was in danger of losing his job. the "new york times" had just reported that in the heated days after james comey was fired as fbi director the deputy attorney general had suggested wearing a wire to record president trump. now trump, traveling in new york, was on the phone, eager for an explanation, rod rosenstein, who by one account had gotten teary eyed just before the call sought to disfuse the volatile situation and assure the president he was on his team. that's according to people familiar with the matter. he criticized the times report published in late september and blamed it on former fbi director andrew mccabe. and told the president he would make sure trump was treated fairly. i give the investigation credibility rosenstein said. quote, i can land the plane. ashley pa ashley parker, it is a stunning piece of reporting

. >> that's where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends, joyce vance, natasha bertrand and our table, donna edwards, phil rucker, ron klain, and michael steele. i have to start with you ron klain. the word spying means something. if you're a tourist on the street you can mix up spying with authorized surveillance. authorized by a fisa warrant signed by the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. but if you're the sitting attorney general and you've actually sat as the country's attorney general before, you don't mix up the word spying with the word authorized surveillance, authorized by a fisa application signed by the sitting deputy attorney general, do you? >> no, you don't, nicole. it was a shame to see bill barr, one of our nation's most respected lawyers, a two-time attorney general. turn in his glasses for a tinfoil hat. what he was talking about was the craziest trump conspiracy theories out there. that only the president's most fringe allies dare to advance. what we know is that this has been investigated five times previously by republican-led committe

bryan joyce that man and robin. thank you for joining me on this edition of the politics number you can join the conversation on my facebook page or tweet me at can use engine don't forget to use the politicking hash tag and that's all for this edition of politicking. aeroflot russian and lights. you know world of big partisan movie lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that made stream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bath shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. aeroflot russian and lights. match geysers financial survival guide liquid assets not those that you can convert in zigzags quite easily. to keep in mind l. as if you mean the inflation middle class guys are bored. headline stories this hour the much hyped. two years of media speculation. u.s. president with the democrats finding a new

plus msnbc contributor joyce vance, a former u.s. attorney. and peter baker, msnbc political analyst. peter baker i saw you on "morning joe" this morning as you ticked through the litany of terrible headlines for the president this morning in your paper and the ones we cited, i said, wow does everything wear off this quickly? we're living these news cycles that feel like dog years. it feels like seven weeks ago the news of the mueller report wrapped up, a terrible week of headlines and a crush of bad news for donald trump. >> the bill barr letter about the mueller investigation feels like a million years ago and it should be something that lasted for the president for a while. he went through two years of this investigation, the bottom-line conclusions seemed to work in his favor, you would have thought that he would have want to spend more time soaking that in and enjoying the aftermath of that, but you're right he headed straight to health care, the border, the headlines on his tax returns and whistle blowers. not good for a guy who came out

bryan joyce that robin. thank you for joining me in this edition of the politics number you can join the conversation on my facebook page intrigue me opinions engine don't forget to use the politicking hash tag and that's all those edition of politicking. aeroflot russian and lives. in a world of big partisan lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bad and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. there of russian airlines. is it finally over have we finally reached the expiration date of the russia gate conspiracy hoax probably not by definition conspiracy theorists are never satisfied but a few things are for sure confidence in government has taken a hit and the reputation. and the media may never be pretty. best's her cocaine is where four

joyce vance, former federal prosecutor. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times" and leigh ann caldwell covers congress for nbc news. leigh ann, give us a sense, how did it go with the speaker saying let's not go with impeachment or the back benchers, who is winning? >> that's a good way to put it, chris. so there does seem to be a mood shift among house democrats on the issue of impeachment and also on these investigations. since the mueller report has come out. i'm told by two sources who were on the call that everyone was very concerned about the status of the country and the way that the president has been acting. and so there is a shift in the appetite for continuing investigations, but we don't yet see any talk of impeachment from the leadership, and that's where it really matters. the chairman of six important committees went through line by line on what they were investigating and were going to continue to investigate, and they said they were going to use every single tool in their arsen

with us now, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor, harry litman, paul butler, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst and betsy woodruff and msnbc contributor and heidi nbc news national political reporter. joyce vance, i want to start with you. you have been listening to this hearing along with all of us. a couple of these top lines that we've heard so far. we said he does intend to release a redacted version of the report within a week. he also left the door open to potentially giving congress the full unredacted the report at some point, although he made clear they were going to potentially have to fight for it. joyce, he answered frankly more questions than i expected him to about this mueller report but only took until 10:05 or so before he said, you know, i said what i'm going to say about this. what is your take? >> well, you know, this is an appropriations committee hearing. so, he's technically here to discuss the department's top priorities and budgets. but that said, it's completely

joyce vance a professor at the university of alabama. william yeoman was former chief counsel on the senate judiciary committee and now serves as a senior fellow at the alliance for justice. ari, let me start with you. this is i think is your ninth hour of television today. i've lost track. i've been following you all day for quite awhile, most of what i knew about this i learned from you on television. i've caught up with my reading. given everything that's been analyzed today, what do you think the focus should be now? >> well, as you say, and the day is long but not nearly as long as the mueller report. you just laid out something that was so vital and you did it as we've come to expect in a narrative fashion. it has great legal significance because when the president says, oh there's going to be a fact-finding query into me and what i've done as president or in my life, so my presidency is over, i'm effed. bob mueller doesn't include that in a report this serious for headlines. if bob mueller wanted headlines, he would have sought he

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to women other women utilize their power to advance their careers ok it's just the world we live in joyce are you using your sexual your female wiles to to to advance in your career is this what is happening is there any truth to what fatboy saying yes there is truth to what you saying some women have ignorantly done that some women hate but let me ask you why do you think they feel the need to if that's what i'm going that's what i was going to talk about because the fed does taking advantage but some in some cases someone has no option it is not the only option he lives oh ok there's a lot of nothing here there's a lot of nothing here so like i don't know like how you think that the plane is leveled just because there are women that are like taking advantage of the fact that they're women do you understand that they have been told that this is what they need to do like it is not fair like it is not enough for me to just be intelligent to be really hard working i have to open my legs for someone to sleep with me for me to be on the same level as you ok so i'm going to come back to monday

attorney and msnbc contributor joyce vance.e's currently a professor at the university of alabama school of law. joyce, let's start by looking at this from the legal point of view. what recourse do democrats even have here? >> it's an interesting question. you know typically this is part of the accommodation process, where the different branches of government try to negotiate these issues. it's only in recent years they spilled over into court. but that's definitely where democrats will be. they will ultimately have to head into court if they want to try to force their prerogatives of the coequal branch of government. >> so, ashley, your paper writes that trump's decision not to cooperate with house committees, coupled with reluctance from republicans struggling to cross him, very left it up to congress to struggle with the coequal branch, which is now setting up struggle that's could define the executive and legislatelive brafrms f branches for years to come. this seems to encapsulate the president's strategy here, doesn't it?

attorney joyce vance, msnbc news contributor and heidi pristhe la. >> the statute is specific.ys a request by a-- at request by the chairman the tax folks shall produce those returns, and they can review it only in a closed executive session in order to protect the taxpayer. there's not really much dispute here. the only dispute is because this administration is willing to ignore the law and to continue to set the president above it. >> heidi, you know the ways and means chairman. carefully waited. resisted all pressure and basically framed this request to the irs commissioner. not really to steve mnuchin who oversees the irs and certainly not the president? >> under huge pressure. i can't tell you how the democrats were banging on him, what's taking so long? yes to your point. he made a tailored, narrow, could have asked for ten years of returns, gone after all 500 of trump's llcs said we want six years and a few select lcs we think will really unlock some of the secrets here we need to have answered. politically, they feel they're in a strong position and legally that they're

joining us now is, joyce vance, former federal prosecutor and professor at the university of alabama school of law, maria traerz ca mar, veto latino and peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times," all msnbc contributors and necessary to the moving parts of this discussion. peter baker, let me start with you. you're part of the reporting team that's delivering us what we think is happening inside this white house. but this is -- we've said this before but with each successive white house chief of starks this feels like a new layer level of chaos with these multiple firings. >> what you're seeing is a president frustrated after two years in office he hasn't been able to have the impact on the border he thought he would be able to have. he hasn't gotten the wall built. although he went down last week to claim that it's now under construction. he hasn't gotten the numbers you know, down to zero obviously in fact they've been coming up the last couple months. he blamed kristin nielsen for this. that's not the only one who is going to leave as a result. a number

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joyce vance among those watching and listening with us. joyce, i keep going back to this, that minutes from now we're going to get into the text of this. minutes from now, we're going to be saying along the lines of oh, you know, look at this. it's clear this was a big deal. so the barr event this morning will exist as a kind of prebuttal. this is people waiting for the report i presume -- >> the senate intel committee has received the report. >> so i presume that the dominant influence is going to shift now from justice to the hill. >> it's been posted. it's online. >> okay. >> usually in a trial setting the prosecution gets to explain its case first to the jury. but what's happened here this morning is we've heard the defense's case. and that's all we've heard from the justice department since we've known that the mueller report was ready. now we're finally getting to the point where we can see for ourselves how prosecutors, how the prosecutors who conducted the investigation, how they've laid out the case. what evidence they compiled an

everybody i asked, including joyce, said they're pretty confident that's the case. but to annie's point, i don't know what point he's trying to make. the weird thing imbedded in that comment he checked my financials. as if he's getting his car tubed tuned up. the point of the tax returns is not that he cheated on his taxes. there's something wrong with the taxes -- although there might be. but they're val tour about the sources of income and they could indicate corruption and deals on the -- we would know about what's motivating him on the policy front if we knew where he was getting the money. the information to that mueller gave a thumbs up or down like h & r block doesn't mean anything. >> politico reports that there's potentially fresh charges of witness tampering and impeding a congressional investigation. there's been reporting about how a question was on the table about whether they -- i know you tweeted about this today, whether they sought to obstruct the investigations out of sdny by having the attorney unrecuse, the thing we know he was desperate to have

>> what -- i'm looking up to joyce vance. just want to -- always wanted to do it. >> we all look up to joyce. >> did something happen? >> the incredibleshrinking -- >> it's really weird being down here. >> see, welcome to life as a short person. my thanks to john, joyce, david, matt, and everyone else that joined us. thank you for watching. i'm nicolle wallace. "mtp daily" starts right now. >> listen, you guys just can't come on air latching when clearly he told some great joke that none of us are in on. >> wait, show chuck todd where he's sitting. look! >> come on, look. >> we can't show you. he's like a head shorter than joyce vance, who is about my height. >> gotcha. i'll let it go. i know there's something funnier there, but i better let it go. thank you, nicolle. if it's thursday -- plugging wikileaks. >>> good evening, i'm chuck todd here in washington. julian assange has been at the center of some of the largest intelligence breaches in american history. he was a central player in the russian conspiracy to hack the 201

from a legal point of view of justice point of view this is a total stitch up joyce knowledge will not face due process or justice souter going to face. a similar. also us democratic presidential hopeful says african american should receive financial compensation for the suffering of their ancestors on the slavery we debate the issue. because somebody is green day still something doesn't mean i'm responsible for you know who should have been able to catch him why they were laughing government has literally buried it paid out everybody else and turned it back on the black people of america. kerry seems to dan's present arrested and emergency room or in the space of twenty four ounce. hello that the latest developments and a look back at what's been happening over the last seven days to me watching weekly here and i see international now off to almost seven years hold up in the ecuadorian embassy in london we can leaks found it you know in this. was sensationally dragged out by police this week came shortly after the south american country suspended the whistleblowers says the ship and r

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republican strategist and in chattanooga tennessee brian joyce host the brian joyce show on talk radio w g o w f.m. ok george you have to surprising many people last week including his own party with a pledge to immediately replaced the affordable care act the president backed tracks and says wait will the twenty's when the election what happened george. well it was a real head scratcher of first larry and then i came to the conclusion that he's a red meat chatter and i kind of wish he pivot to the ten to twenty percent of the electorate that are open minded and fair and kind of more in the middle and with that with that group he needs to be talking about jobs and the strength of the economy and how he's promoting american interests overseas with strength and vigor whether it's nato not paying for their obligations medically and health care reform was dead on arrival with this congress because the democratic house is going to block anything you tries to do so i think he was more posturing than doing any anything serious but obviously we all had a serious caper case of whiplash last wee

joyce, thank you. ari melber was among those highlighting this, the portion of barr's presentation about obstruction, the natural question is how can you prove or disprove obstruction if you didn't have an in-person interview with the president? here, nonetheless, is that portion. >> after finding no underlying collusion with russia, the special counsel's report goes on to consider whether certain actions of the president could amount to obstruction of the special counsel's investigation. as i addressed in my march 24th letter, the special counsel did not make a traditional prosecutorial judgment regarding this allegation. instead the report recounts ten episodes involving the president and discusses potential legal theories for connecting those activities to the elements of an obstruction offense. after carefully reviewing the facts and legal theories outlined in the report and in consultation with the office of legal counsel and other department lawyers, the deputy attorney general and i concluded th

republican strategist and in chattanooga tennessee brian joyce host the brian joyce show on talk radio w g o w f.m. ok joy jeff the surprising many people last week including his own party with a pledge to immediately replace the affordable care act the president backed tracks and says wait will the twenty's when the election what happened george. well it was a real head scratcher a first larry and.

what joyce said is really important.rosecutors disagree with one another and disagree with agents and agents disagree with prosecutors all the time. this is an art, not science. two well intentioned people can come up with a different answer. that happens all the time. i'm not surprised that there is more. whey think will be interesting will be the arm chair quarterbacking after we see what that is. inevitably whether bill barr is right or wrong, he will be second-guessed vociferously given the fact that so much of the obstruction stuff is public facing stuff. we have seen it. recusals or calls for recusals and unrecusals and pashd ones and firings that are ob sfruktive behavior. whether or not it constitutes a crime remains to be seen. >> three government officials said a dispute within the special counsel's office on the facts and the law was one factor behind mueller's is decision not to make a call on obstruction. a point you made. then the question of the summaries. in some ways we have a factual dispute in the repo

republican strategist and in chattanooga tennessee brian joyce host of the brian joyce show on talk radio w g o w f.m. ok george you have to surprising many people last week including his own party with a pledge to immediately replace the affordable care act the president backed tracks and says wait to twenty's won the election what happened george. well it was a real head scratcher of first larry and then i came to the conclusion that he's really just trying to appeal to the base with the health care red meat chatter and with the border red meat chatter and i kind of wish he pivot to the ten to twenty percent of the electorate that are open minded and fair and kind of more in the middle.

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so much to get to with joyce.charges against wealthy parents accused of cheating their kids' way into college. and it's not just fraud now. it's also money laundering. >>> plus, bernie sanders made some money off his book deal. actually, a lot in the eyes of some of his supporters. what his soon-to-be released tax returns mean for his presidential campaign. and there is a fascinating front-page story in the "new york times" this morning, "why liberals on twitter don't speak for the quiet majority of democrats." this is what we were talking about, willie, with the biden story, where blue check marks on twitter were all up in arms, but america? they see him as a nice guy and they don't understand what all the fuss is about. there are so many stories like that where you can get caught up in twitter if you're a dem, and you can find yourself misleading your own campaign efforts. >> it's a really good piece on the front page. i know we're going to talk about it later but it gets to the echo chamber that frankly a lot o

it was after a long series to compromise our american policy. >> our thanks to mike, joyce vance and jeremy bash. coming up, house democrats make it official, they want to look at trump's tax returns from the past several years and they want them next week. >>> later, the feds are investigating whether china is targeting mar-a-lago as the president calls the recent security breach a fluke. "the 11th hour" just getting started on a wednesday night. the latest innovation from xfinity isn't just a store. it's a save more with a new kind of wireless network store. it's a look what your wifi can do now store. a get your questions answered by awesome experts store. it's a now there's one store that connects your life like never before store. the xfinity store is here. and it's simple, easy, awesome. >>> house democrats are opening up a new front in their investigations into the president, donald trump's tax returns, a request to the irs today came from democratic congressman richard neil, chairman of the house ways and means committee, he's asking for the president's personal tax returns a

. >> joyce, kushner dismissing concerns about these clearances. is he right to do so? >> he's absolutely wrong. security clearances, this is not a political football. it's not a partisan process. and this white house which has destroyed so many guard rails has destroyed guard rails here, as well, with the president inserting his own judgment to replace that of career officials. and it's not something that is irrelevant and not something that is minor. it goes to ensuring the integrity of our country's practices, policies and, most important information. if you have folks who have conflicted loyalties, you open up a whole host of problems. we don't need to do that. we need to let the career officials make decisions of who is a security risk and who isn't. >> ken delaney, you have reported and you are sharing with us on things that could end up raising concerns when it comes to these clearances and lay that out and i think we have images to help you do that. >> there is a whole section in the guidelines on foreign influence. and our sources tell us, that was the main iss

republican strategist and in chattanooga tennessee brian joyce host of the brian joyce show on talk radio and w g o w f.m. ok george and to surprising many people last week including his own party with the pledge sioux mediately replace the affordable care act the president backed tracks and says wait to twenty's won the election one hundred yards. well it was a real head scratcher of first larry and then i came to the conclusion that he's really just trying to appeal to the base with the health care red meat chatter and with the border red meat chatter and i kind of wish he pivot to the ten to twenty percent of the electorate that are open minded and fair and kind of more in the middle and with that with that group he needs to be talking about jobs and the strength of the economy and how he's promoting american interests overseas with with strength and vigor whether it's nato not paying for their obligations or china cheating on trade i think there are some issues that most fair minded americans would agree with automatically and health care reform was dead on arrival with this congress

and jane fox, senior reporter for vanity fair and carol lee because joyce vance and peter baker, msnbc political analyst and "new york times" chief correspondent. peter baker, i saw you on "morning joe" this morning and as you all ticked through the litany of terrible headlines for the president this morning in your paper and in the ones we cited, i thought, wow is it everything just wear off this quickly? we're all living these new cycles that feel like san diego years and it feels like seven years ago, not one or two weeks ago, that the news of the mueller report wrapped up and terrible week of headlines, a crush of bad news for donald trump? >> exactly. the barr letter, the bill barr letter about the mueller investigation feels like a million years ago. it should have been something that lasted for a while for this president, right? he went through two years of ordeal with this investigation. the conclusions, at least, the bottom line conclusions seemed to work in his favor. you would have thought he would want to spend more time soaking that in and enjoying the aftermath of that, b

joyce makes the right point with what the president did.nvestigation the prosecutors may not have been able to prove a crime. it doesn't mean his behavior was acceptable. the report shows plenty of evidence he committed a crime. the question is, are republicans willing to give a fair report? will political pressure change enough? will the underlying politics change? are they going to continue to stick their heads in the sand? so far, it's the latter. if hearings go forward and public opinion changes, that can change with it. one of the republicans in that gang of eight is a key person to get his reaction today. i want to talk about don mcgahn. don mcgahn, the president's former legal council emerged as a key player in the report. chucked chuck todd asked the most important question, take a look. >> why is the president angry at the russians. why is he so angry at rob mueller and dan mcgahn? the russians created the impression his election was illegitimate. >> why wouldn't you be angry if someone accused you of treezen when it's untrue. >> d

. >> joyce vance, what have you found? >> as we read through this information and as i listen to the conversations that you are having in new york, i'm reminded of one of the first conversations that ari melber and i ever had about this when the investigation was young and we talked about the fact there was some conduct that was not illegal but there was still inappropriate for a president. we talked about the notion there was conduct that was lawful but awful. to the extent that's what bob mueller's report tells us today, there's so much awful conduct by this president whether it's the obstruction conduct, whether it's the blind eye that he turns to offers of russian help. that one is left with the conclusion this president has failed to uphold the oath of office that he took on that inauguration day. when he said he would faithfully execute and he would take care to ensure that the laws of the united states were upheld. it's very difficult to see how this report does not end up on capitol hill and provide a powerful road

to talk about and we've got a great panel to do that with starting in london with michael patrick joyce he is a barrister in international and european law in philadelphia clear thankful stein who's a professor of law at the university of pennsylvania law school and rounding out our panel in norfolk in the u.k. vaughan smith who is a freelance journalist and a personal friend of julian assange and so able to give us some interesting insight there in fact why don't i start with you. even as a supporter i suspect mr assad's knew this is why this day had to come didn't it the ecuadorians after nearly seven years we're probably going to run out of i guess patience might be the word at some stage well i if this came because there was a change of political administration in ecuador there was a new president who had different populaces of the previous one out attempted to get julian to ecuador but we didn't as a country the british didn't allow allow julian to leave the embassy so we you in touch how much were you in touch with with mr us on shit leading up to this friday before last so eight