>> you know, i agree with what both joyce and danny are saying. when you're in court, you have to play the hand that you're dealt. if getting a good judge is what justice depends on, we're in trouble when it comes to state court. 90% of the time they would be yelling at the defense, not the prosecution. most of the time that's true. in a case like this, the roles are often reversed. and so i think a fundamental aspect of managing this judge was managing the presentation of the evidence. i thought the state went down roads they didn't need to and should not have with regard to making this case more politically charged than it needed to be. this should have been a theme based primarily on safety. the message should have been look, despite all the background noise here, all we're trying to do is keep people safe. and you can't keep people safe when you've got somebody running around and shooting people and putting other people at risk. that's what we are focussed on. i don't care what your politics are. you've got to admit that having two people shot

happy days for wells, jasmine joyce — definitely. jasmine joyce and at _ definitely. happy days for wells, jasmine joyce and at that - definitely. happy days for wells, jasmine joyce and at that 32 - definitely. happy days for wells, i jasmine joyce and at that 32 month wait for victory, they beat japan by 23 points to five encarta. now, the semifinal line for cricket's t20 world cup has been confirmed after the wings in pakistan. the tournament will be decided next week as craig templeton reports. in a competition where the permutations are fairly simple, not for new zealand it was win and they will make the final four. standing in their way, afghanistan, a side who had a slim chance of making the semifinals themselves. but one of the things about the black cap says that strength in the field, behind the stumps, it comes in the form of devin conway, hisjuggling the stumps, it comes in the form of devin conway, his juggling act brought the first of three early wickets. the brackets help steady the ship, this one hit so hard it seemed

i cannot even remember what joyce and i said to each other 15 minutes ago. so how can i come back and say 50 years ago joyce and i were sitting here and we said such and such. it is humanly impossible. therefore, you have to understand that these are all approximation. i just say, all right, it is useful to read this stuff, but you have to understand that this is not verbatim. it cannot possibly be verbatim. >> you point that out to the reader on different occasions. >> we are in this together. i am groping in the dark like everyone else. trying to get as accurate of a story as i can. i know that there are gaps, there are holes in the story that i doubt will ever be filled. think of your own lives. even you. there are holes in everyone's story. you cannot even remember why you did that stupid thing when you are 16 years old. you do not even remember having done it. let others remember that you did it. it is very complicated. let's leave it at that. maybe this is too long. i don't know. anyway. i will read it as quickly as i can. this is page 361. we are deep

we go.e joyce, can we hear you read a selection? >> okay. i'm notr going to begin with th first c pages i wrote because i don't think i can actually read them. the idea off a hospice first yo can't say the word because you can't think that and then you shyly start saying the word hospice, and i think many people get these delusions or fantasies how they'll make the hospice experience as beautifulan and wonderful as can be. and that's like aha fantasy tha carries you along. and then the actual reality is not going to be like that. it's t something different. but i'm not going to read that. the novel is so constructed that it has a kind of linear, a realistic narrative, and then it has kind of hallucinatory vignettes that belong to the whole process of losing somebody and not being b able to do anything about it. it's like an acceleration so you start getting a little -- i don't want to say crazy, but you're sort of losing your bearings in thehe world. and this is only about four pages. you start to have p a lot of -- oh, fantasies of the alte

we're also joined by joyce vance. thank you for being with me. sam, there's already been quite a back and forth from the jury today. right? >> there's been some activity, jose. they are in their ninth hour of deliberations. at about 9:40 or so eastern, the jury requested video that the cell phone video showing the pursuit and ultimately the death of ahmaud arbery. they watched it three times in high resolution version. they also requested the 9-1-1 tapes and here's the key part of that. they only listened to about the first 20 or thirty-seconds which says 9-1-1, what is your emergency? and gregory mcmichael responds, i'm out here. there's a black man running and presumably he was going to say down the street and is interrupted by dispatch. that's basically what they listened to. that what happened within the last hour or so. the defense's argument has been staked the entire time on a community-wide crime spree that was going on at the neighborhood, and the idea there was a citizen's arrest being carried out by the mcmichaels. the problem with tha

joyce of pennsylvania, i inform the house that dr. joyce will vote no on h.r. 5376. as the member designated by mr. kelly of pennsylvania, i inform the house that mr. kelly will vote no on h.r. 5376. as the member designated by mr. ration that willer, i inform the house that mr. reschenthaler will vote no on h.r. 5376. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> as the member designated by mr. krishnamoorthi in a mooghty, i inform the house that mr. krishnamoorthi in a moorgty will vote yes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from seek recognition? >> as the member designated by mr. carroll, i inform the house that mr. carroll will vote no. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? >> as the member designated by mrs. fletcher will vote yes on h.r. 5376. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from west seek recognition? >> as the member designated by mrs. lesko of arizona, i inform the house that mrs. lesko will vote on 576. as the member d

barbara mcquade, joyce vance, thank you both. i'm yasmin vossoughian.reverend al sharpton and "politicsnation" starts right now. >>> good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, thankful for what we have. right now i'm still fairly full, but not with the remaining warmth of my thanksgiving meal, no. but with a pre-holiday hope for our national priorities. because the season has now opened

with me is joyce vance and advisor to the doc. joyce vance, let me start with you. we go through -- we're getting a little more specific now. we're now talking about the funding and the financing of these events that led to what we saw happen on january 6th. but there is also a little more. taylor budowich is the spokesman and he said you had a 501 to encourage people to attend and the select committee has reason to believe you were directing the organization approximately $200,000 from a source or sources not disclosed in the organization to pay for advertising. what would be the significance of figuring out who funded this whole thing? >> right, you know, prosecutors love to follow the money, joy, and apparently now congress does, too. because you can learn a lot. you learn the important elements of who wanted to do something, what they wanted to do and what they were willing to do to get there. so this has been i think a piece of this puzzle from get-go. there was reporting early on that the republican attorney general ease association was also involved in making

i agree with joyce's analysis.rson. in this case donald trump is trying to weaponize executive privilege to protect himself and his personal interests. one of the ways we know that, if i was the committee itself, when i'm looking at drafting and considering a contempt vote, i'm going to be focused very clearly on the fact that mark meadows was not acting as the chief of staff for the white house, he was acting for the trump campaign. that was true for jeffrey clark and so many others. the campaign manager has also been subject to the subpoena and very explicitly part of what he was doing is transitioning the trump campaign for president in 2020 into the messaging machine around stealing the election. and all of these things are really important relevant facts and contexts to what the january 6th committee is trying to understand, which is how did we get here? and what do we need to fix to prevent it as well as whether or not there are any law violations that need to be attended to. you just can't simply hide from t

yamiche alcindor, susan page, joyce vance.always, we appreciate the three of you so much. >>> coming up for us, the republicans who voted for infrastructure in their home districts are under attack by the former president of the united states who happens to run their party. how dire they vote for roads and bridges for the folks back home? >>> later, one of our top doctors is here with us tonight to tell us what we need to know about this increase of covid cases in some areas, from the rockies to new england after weeks of decline. yes, the news is at times still withering. all of it, however, beneath the washington monument as the 11th hour is just getting under way on this wednesday night. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ sneeze ] are you ok? oh, it's just a cold. if you have high blood pressure, a cold is not just a cold. unlike other cold medicines, coricidin provides powerful cold relief without raising your blood pressure be there for life's best moments with coricidin. now in sugar free liquid. every day in business bring

and joyce alene, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. notably, she is cohost of the podcast sisters in law. along with their friends,. >> but good evening and welcome to, all counselor indeed, i have to start with the. you this day has been denied. the same judge who ruled so forcefully that donald trump had no standing to keep these documents away from the committee. she won as far in her ruling as to say, presidents are not kings. the way the federal system works, you have to go to that same judge that just ruled and ask for a stay and then it gets bumped up the line. long story short, question, what is the real chance that we are going to see these documents handed over to the committee in the matter of days? >> it is hard to assessed. there is some reason to believe that when the court of appeal gets to take a look at this either tonight or tomorrow morning, they may slow it down a little bit and put some sort of temporary stay in place while the evaluate the case, of course, it will likely go from that up to the supreme court for th

joyce alene, i'd like to begin with. you 20 subpoenas going out from the one six committee. who should be nervous tonight? >> you know, everybody should be nervous, brian, because one thing this committee has shown with the pace of its work is that they are going full steam ahead. they have flushed out the committee stuff, they have people who have had some experience with financial destinations. so some of the people that they interviewed are probably people whose names we have heard. but others may well be people who are behind the scenes. people who understand how money moves, that bringing people from washington for these advance. the committee holds no bars at this point. >> sam stein, this big house vote tomorrow, give us please a preview and some real world expectations. i >> we have been down this road twice before where it looks like there was going to be a vote on the physical infrastructure bill only for the house to delay. this one feels a bit different. they have been working lawmakers aggressively. not just for the physical infrastructure bill before the human

joyce, what's the real danger for him after what he did today. remembering that he stays on brand by seeming to fear no consequence? >> that's always been the brand right? it's very likely that part of the brand here will ultimately be portraying himself as a martyr, and using that to rip up trump's space. and presumably anybody on the political side of the equation is prepared for that. because that's not what prosecutors are going to worry about. prosecutors looked at that press conference, today and i feel quite certain that someone on the prosecution team said, wow we need to get a screen grab of that video. because bannon is out there confessing to obstruction congress. in the press conference, i'm sure there was a moment of happiness. where they realize they be able to play his own words to the jury. >> john carl, back to the white house. as backdrop. can they enjoy today's victory? knowing what's ahead of them. knowing there in a city that is in effect run these days by joe manchin? >> look, this was a legitimate serious accomplishment. th

joyce vance is here. former u.s. attorney, now professor at the university of alabama school of law. also, "washington post" congressional correspondent, author of the early 202 newsletter. eugene daniels is here, politico white house reporter. joyce, i want to start with you. with the question about an investigation. i mean, the investigation now has some public facing evidence of where it is focused and this list seems to be on the witnesses to donald trump's conduct. is that how you see it? >> that's exactly how i see it. you can tell a lot about where an investigation is headed from the witnesses that are being called. these are people who were literally in trump's inner circle, but also the folks that he talked to leading up to january 6th. so nicolle, if the key question in watergate was what did the president know and when, the january 6 committee is going to ask those questions, but they're also intent on cutting straight to the chase in figuring out what did the president and what was he willing to do to get

and former attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a former prosecutor. hosts the podcast "sisters in law." welcome to you both. a legal question to begin with. biden doesn't want to cooperate. he wants something close to televised martyrdom. the committee's hopes and dreams is riding on this in part. how long could this drag out? >> well, steve bannon certainly has an agenda of making this twist in the wind for as long as possible, but he's capped on the criminal justice system, brian. for one thing there is the 180-day speedy trial act. that's the time you have to go from indictment to trial. this is not a complex case with a lot of discovery, and ultimately, at least getting to a trial court and getting a jury to decide this case is something that could feasibly happen early next year. >> john karl, i said biden, i meant bannon. two men who should not be confused, certainly. what did you make of the scene of bannon's making outside court today, john? >> well, he's enjoying every minute of this. this is his chance to play the martyr for trump. i think i

with me now joyce vance, the former u.s.della, adviser to the dnc and the dccc. i guess the first kind of question for you, joyce, at what point this playing footsie with insurrection cross the line into any crimes? what do they have to do to cross over that line? >> it's a deceptively difficult question because it has to be asked on an individualized basis in each situation. joy, you and i have talked about this before. i think the minute former president trump makes phone calls into georgia asking them to find him the number of votes he needs to win that state, that he has committed the georgia crime of soliciting election crime of trying to solicit the results of that election. who is going to finally step up and prosecute it. >> and also whether or not the select committee can even really fully investigate. stay with me for a second, joyce. this appeals court. three judges on this appeals court have now put a stay on what had been a victory for the 1/6 panel to get these records in the archives of donald trump. now that

how would that work, joyce? >> so it would work about the same way that what we've seen with bannon would work. with one big difference. because madows was in the white house at the time of these events, he has a somewhat better claim to executive privilege, but i thought the congressman said something very important in his stamtd. he pointed out that meadows completely ignored the subpoena. you have to show up, you have to produce documents or provide a privilege log detailing what you're withholding, you have to answer questions. because privilege isn't the answer to every question. when you're asked your name, the answer isn't, executive privilege. and so you're obligated to go through the questions, responding specifically. it's that total flagrant effort to avoid the subpoena that led to bannon's indictment. it will be interesting to see how doj will address the meadows situation. >> first, we have another clip from that trump interview, showing you he is still bitter about what mike pence did for the count

joining us now, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, and katie benner, the "the new york times" justice department reporter whose story on this this morning is required katie, who is looking into this, where is the corpus of information going to come from? as he mentioned and as you reported on, the justice department is prosecuting lots and lots and lots and lots of people. the folks being prosecuted for disorderly conduct and trespass are not going to get us all the way down the road of who started this, who fomented it, who funded it, who organized it, who perpetrated it. is there a bigger investigation going on at the justice department that mirrors or parallels the one that this congressional committee is undertaking? >> sure. so first i would say that your question is also being echoed by judges here in the district. we saw the chief judge beryl howell say that the justice department's approach to this investigation, she called it schizophrenic. she said, you're calling this one of the worst domestic terrorist attacks pe

happening to helped him strategize. >> what happens now, joyce? one certain is a lot of individuals are looking at what happens to steve bannon and if mark meadows will appear now. what will unfold? >> we have a couple of things happening at the same time. the bannon indictment shows doj has the fortitude to protect congressional ability to engage with its witnesses. also in the district of columbia courts, we have the lawsuit proceeding where trump administration is trying to block turnover of papers and executive privilege is at stake in the lawsuit. a district judge held that trump can't assert executive privilege once biden decided it is not merited. biden has articulated a clear reason for turning over papers in the situation which is the importance of getting to the bottom of january 6th. if the d.c. circuit as analysts expect, it will be difficult to assert executive privilege. i think we have gotten used to talking about executive privilege in the glorified terms. it is meant to protect iternal deliberations in the white house. not campaig

attorney joyce vance and the "new york times" national politics reporter jeremy peters. leann, what are we hearing on the select committee on whether meadows or his attorney may have made a briefly appearance from all indications there was not a virtual appearance and he is not in compliance. >> hi, andrea, that's right. we were staking out the committee room of where he was supposed to appear. we know he did not show up in person. we had been wondering if he perhaps showed up virtual live through zoom or whatever means possible over the internet and i just got confirmation that that did not happen either. so we know now that mark meadows was a no-show for the subpoena that he was supposed to come be deposed or testify at this morning before the january 6th select committee. we haven't yet heard from the select committee officially on what they're going to do next, but we do know that in a letter to mark meadows' attorney sent yesterday, ne did threaten that they would refer the case out for criminal contempt to the justice department should he not comply. we haven't got

>> there is so much news it would have been easy to miss the steele dossier -- >> i would defer to joycemade a comment saying one person that was a contributor to the christopher steele dossier, may have misled the department of justice. you know, nothing actually comes out in the investigation that says that everything that we have discussed over multiple years of the president of the united states campaign, chairman giving election material to a known russian spy who passed it on to a russian oligarc, that has nothing to do with this. trump siding with the dictator of russian over u.s. intelligence. the durham investigation is an interesting animal, set up by donald trump to find dirt on the fbi and people related to the steele dossier and within the scheme of things, i defer to joyce, but i don't think it is particularly significant. the republicans will make it look like the second coming. >> joyce, i have to tell you that i spent many weekends with malcolm. i am not sure i ever heard him want to defer to someone else. i am going to take it as the highest complement and vote of confi

sam stein, kimberly atkins store, and joyce vance, our starting line with our thanks on a thursday night. >>> coming up for us, with the dust now settling in the commonwealth of virginia, two of our very favorite political observers are here for a damage assessment for the democrats. >>> and later, 84 million workers now face a deadline to either get vaccinate or get tested a lot. that's generating even more resistance from the right as anti-vaxxers get busy once again. luckily for us, we have a top doctor standing by. all of it as we are just getting under way on "the 11th hour" for a thursday night beneath the capitol dome. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ a thursday night beneath the a thursday night beneath the . >>> following glenn youngkin's victory in vaerjs politico reports he tapped into the parents pandemic era frustrations in that statement now republicans want to use his playbook in 2022. quote, republicans say his frequent messaging on education, stoking parental worries about progressivism in the classroom while urging them to play a greater role in schools, helped him pull ah

attorney joyce vance. julia, take us through what you've heard in the last two hours from the justices in this important argument? >> it's interesting, andrea, i spent the morning outside the supreme court where protesters are talking about heartbeats and viability. none of those words are being mentioned inside the supreme court today. what they're talking about is whether or not this law can stand by the very nature of how it's been written. as you know, this allows private citizens in the state of texas to sue anyone who may have a connection to a woman's abortion. and so it takes the enforcement away from the state and puts it on the court. now, it's very interesting to hear from brett kavanaugh today. as we know he's been a conservative justice, appointed by president trump, someone who we can expect to overturn roe v. wade. he started questioning the solicitor general from texas asking him if he thought this law -- what would stop this law from being copied across the country on things like gun right

. >> and joyce, it's an interesting conversation, because there are lots of discussions, you've beenith me for them, so is katie, that some people people say you can't participate in an insurrection and get away with it, we need to throw the book at them, but most of these people are dupes, whether not you agree with what they did. ten years ago, these are probably not the people who would say they would participate in an insurrection and violent police at the capitol. we need to get beyond just them, and is it's the best way to do it? is what you saw today, the arrest warrant for steve bannon, is getting us closer to the heart of the matter? >> so, i think it's really impossible to say whether this is an omen of anything else to come. this is the justice department, enforcing a subpoena for congress, fulfilling its obligation in that regard. doj has shown something today that i think we have questions about up until now, and that is their ability to conduct an investigation and put together an indictment without any word of it leaking out. i don't think anyone had any idea that this

joyce vance was a former federal prosecutor. maya wily, her new piece, race and justice and fears still rule. i want to get into that with maya, but given this was a criminal cross-examination, i'll go to joyce first and again, a little background. people know both of you as such experienced lawyer, but joyce, you ran one of these big u.s. attorneys office. that means you're the top dog with a lot of lawyers underneath and you do these kinds of cases, murder trials the most serious. what did you think first of that cross-examination? how it was conducted and what the injury might have gotten from it? >> it was a very skillful cross-examination and something that strikes me as you watch an experienced do that is she understands that she's not there for drama. she's not there to create an a ha in the courtroom. she'll really drive home the impact of that cross-examination will be when she argues the evidence in closing arguments and she's able to tell the jury, you know, this defense about using this georgia statute that permits a

it's always good to have joyce vance with us.oth strategies here, but first, let's talk about the decision to put mr. mcmichael up there yesterday. and then what i found to be an interesting tactic, which was they really wanted to establish the defense did that mr. mcmichael was a well trained in law enforcement techniques, which i thought was an interesting decision because then, look, i think it ended up opening up what we saw today, what do you make of the decision of putting him on the stand, number one, and how did you think the prosecution did today, number two? >> this reads like a real desperation tactic. you don't put a defendant like this on the witness stand unless what you're hoping is that you can convince one or two jurors to hold out so that the jury hangs instead of convicting. this strategy that they pursued of bolstering law enforcement credentials was designed to give a effect to the defense that we expect to hear them talk more about in closing argument, that travis mcmichael and his father intended to effect

joining me is joyce vance, nbc legal analyst. all right, joyce, let's get to you there as we've heard from the judge. he's gotten a lot of criticism for his idiosyncrasies in court. how do you view his comments to the jury that we played? >> it's pretty typical for judges to make comments to a jury after a verdict comes in, thanking them for their jury service and reminding them that it doesn't matter what their verdict is, what matters is their commitment to listening to the evidence and doing their best and diligently trying to fulfill their duties. so, this wasn't that unusual. the problem is that it was the final stage of what had been a number of, if not outright efforts to put his thumb on the scale, then blunders by this judge, who didn't seem in any way committed to creating an environment where everyone who was watching the trial would believe it was fair. on many cases, he appeared to have a strong defense orientation and he did nothing once criticism surfaced to try to reinforce the fairness of the proceedings. in many

and finally, joyce levinson.as one of the few women who enlisted in the marines during world r ii. joyce passed away just a few days ago, at 97 years old. so, on this veterans day, we salute all our heroes and thank them for their service and sacrifice. we'll be right back. s knocking you out of your zone? lowering your a1c with once-weekly ozempic® can help you get back in it. oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! my zone... lowering my a1c, cv risk, and losing some weight... now, back to the game! ozempic® is proven to lower a1c. most people who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. and you may lose weight. adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. in adults also with known heart disease, ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as heart attack, stroke, or death. ozempic® helped me get back in my type 2 diabetes zone. ozempic® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't share needles or pens, or reuse needles. don't take ozempic® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or h

attorney joyce alene, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor, she host the podcast sisters in law along with our friends with kimberly acts guns, and barbara mcquade. good evening and welcome to you all. and counselor, indeed, i need to begin with you given the news at the top of our broadcast tonight. these two notable names are big names. they come out seemingly late in the game on the subpoena list. though we don't get to know how long the game is planned for. what is your read on this latest round of subpoenas it looks? like congress is doing what prosecutors typically do their following the money. they are trying to figure out who funded the events on january six which will be very telling in helping them place accountability. but they're also doing something else that i think is a sign that they have actually gotten a fair bit of information as they have been interviewing cooperating parties. they appeared to be zeroing in conversations that were attempted or perhaps, have been with the white house. by people who were concerned that there was a risk of violent and connection

joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney and professor at university of alabama school of law and anna is co-executive direction of fund texas choice. the group also part of one of the two cases heard today. ken, we said the hearing is not directly about roe v. wade but explain what it is about. >> reporter: good morning. in essence this is about a texas law designed to defeat judicial review because it empowers private citizens to enforce the ban and the justice department will argue this law subverts the constitutional right in a way that could be replicated across the country and could see massachusetts passing a law making handguns illegal and allowing people to sue to enforce that and chaos. what else is significant about this is that this is the second time the court considering these challenges and a majority of justices already declined to block this law on two occasions and yet here we are hearing the arguments on an accelerated and unprecedented schedule today which suggests to some experts that perhaps on

joyce your thoughts? >> it's possible that there's a subset in reason for using a second grand jury, this looks to me more like it's procedural in the federal system are counters a lax along longer in the new york state system the grander suffers sort period of time it is more difficult to re-up. them this may simply reflect the time has run on the original grand jury that is empanel and we were expecting it to run out at some point this month or earlier next month. so i would be careful about reading too much into. this >> all right, we will see, we will find out at some point, it will be revealed very shortly. glenn kirschner, i joyce alene, they get both. just ahead, he proved that vaccine requirements are working. look no further than the nypd. the empty threats behind the right-wing freak out, after this. out, afte this [gaming sounds] just think, he'll be driving for real soon. every new chevy equinox comes standard with chevy safety assist, including automatic emergency braking. find new peace of m

he's a news we call missed and contributing. editor joyce, no alexandria in virginia. peter could help you with this good evening. it does seem that this is a developing story and one that has different facts emerging as time progresses. now we've got news of fatalities as well as many injured. just bring us up to speed on what you know. in terms of those that have been involved in this incident right now, what we know is that a red ford s u, v is you said raced up through the parade route and slammed into a group of people who were marching. and in total, there seemed to be about 2 dozen casualties. how many of those are fatalities? how many of those are symbol injuries? i don't know yet. and the driver of the s u. v has been taken in the police custody, of course, and the f b i and i involved in this investigation. you just mentioned that this person of interest, the motive is unknown for the moment. it leads to lots of speculation, doesn't it? but also raises attention about security around events like this as we lead up to the holiday season. it, we have always had

joyce of pennsylvania, i inform the house that dr. joyce will vote no on the resolution. and as the member designated by mr. kelly of pennsylvania, i inform the house that mr. kelly will vote no on the resolution. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, as the member designated by mr. krishnamoorthi, i inform the house that mr. krishnamoorthi will vote yes on h.res. 803. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, as the member designated by mr. david joyce of the state of ohio, pursuant to the house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. joyce will vote nay on h.res. 803. mr. valadao: as the member designated by mr. adam kinzinger of the state of illinois, pursuant to the house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. kinzinger will vote nay on h.res. 803. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? mr. correa: mr. speaker, as the member designated by congress member napolitano, i

joining us is nbc's ron allen in georgia and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. no one was expecting mr. mcmichael to take the stand. >> this is a somewhat surprising decision to put him on the stand. katy, this is not an effort to win an acquittal. this is an effort to hang the jury. they're trying to appeal to one or two jurors to convince them that they should not convict because of this reasonable notion of law enforcement training and arrest under georgia's then in place, now removed from the books, statute that permitted citizens' arrests. this is i think something that could backfire. i expect the cross-examination of mr. mcmichael will be brutal. if it were me, i would dig up every training officer he had ever had at the coast guard and have them talk about whether the picture he puts on the witness stand of someone who is fully trained is consistent with how he behaved when he was on active duty. i suspect that they may even open the door to bringing in some of the racist statements that mcmichael made on the day that he killed mr. arbery. this is a very

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joyce, your thoughts?re is a substantive reason for using a second grand jury. this looks to me more like it's procedural. in the federal system our grand juries last a lot longer and it's easier to get an extension of your grand jury. in the new york state system, the grand juries sit for a shorter period of time. it's more difficult to re-up them. this may reflect that time has run out on the original grand jury impanelled. we were expecting it to run out at some point this month or early next month. i would be careful about reading too much into this. >> all right. we will see. we will find out at some point revealed. glen, joyce, thank you both. >>> just ahead, if you -- proof that vaccine requirements are working, look no further than the nypd, the empty threats behind the right-wing freakout after this. s behind the right-wing freakout after this if you have high blood pressure, a cold is not just a cold. unlike other cold medicines, coricidin provides powerful cold relief without raising your blood

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joyce vance let me bring you in here.f our legal analysts here. your reaction? >> well, the indictment seems appropriately tailored to the circumstances and it is very interesting, hallie, as you pointed out. there are two separate counts here. there is a count that charges bannon with failure to show up to testify. there is also a count that charges him with failing to produce documents and other materials that are requested. so we see how the issues in this case are converging on the case that's already in front of the d.c. circuit, the case where president trump is objecting to turnover of his presidential papers. >> yep. >> the ultimate issue to get decided in both matters is whether president trump has the ability to try to block these materials, or whether once president biden determines that those materials have to be turned over because january 6th and the events of the insurrection have such grave impact on the nation that these materials have to be turned over. that issue gets determined here. >> lee anne, i hav

attorney, joyce vance. former rnc chairman and former lieutenant governor of maryland, michael steel is here and christopher goldsmith joins us. an iraq war veteran who monitors domestic extremism and national security issues. luke, i start with you. the january 6 committee members are not brining turkeys. they are pumping out subpoenas this week in a forceful display, i will read from some of these letters, but it is clear they know a lot about a lot. >> yes, i think if you put these two days of subpoenas together, you get two more pieces to the puzzle we're building of what is either a few separate conspiracies that all come together or one giant conspiracy. what they're trying to do with this last one is perhaps the most important part because it get to the actual violence that engulfs the capitol on january 6th. we now have subpoenas out for the proud boys, the oath keepers and the first amendment tra torian. we know members of those groups have been indicted, charged with violent acts at the capitol on

attorney joyce vance. joyce, you and i have been talking about this case now for a few days. i want to get your sense of what could have gone on behind the scenes. what could have gone on that we did not see? i know there were cameras in the courtroom, but there were moments that were not televised. what could have happened that might have influenced this case? >> well, the devil is always in the detail in these cases. particularly with jury verdicts where trials happen under a microscope, it's awfully easy for us to dissect them afterwards. the people who know everything that happened are the people in the courtroom, the jury. and even with access through television, the jury saw every moment of evidence. they saw the looks on witness's faces. they tested their credibility. they had access to all of the evidence in ways that we frankly don't have as members of the public. so one of the things we need to remind ourselves, when a verdict like this happens, that many people are dissatisfied with, is that it appears that the jury did its best. this wasn't a fast verdict that was

joyce: the drug crisis of our nation and what we are experiencing is a direct result of the failed border policies that have been put in place by the biden administration. recently, i spoke with the chamberberg's police chief ron can macho who said more and more deadly drugs like fentanyl are responsible for overdoses in our pennsylvania communities in my district alone, we saw a 30% rise in overdose deaths between 2019 and 2020. and sadly, that number is on the rise again. now is the time for congress to take swift and decisive action. we must ensure that law enforcement has the tools they need to save lives, protect our communities, and keep this lethal drug off the our streets. thank you and i yield. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from north carolina seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i rise today to address the house for up to one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, i rise today to pay a heart-felt tribute to pastor james d.corbett of greenville, north ca

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joining me is joyce vance. you have been following this case and all of the attended cases closely.bout the texas law, justics kavanaugh and coney-barrett, did note some skepticism about the texas law. what do you make of those? >> they did sound some skepticism. it wasn't about whether it should remain constitutional in the united states. it had more to do with the veek -- vehicle that texas has chosen to implement the law. your listeners are familiar with the vigilante system where anyone in the country can get a $10,000 bounty for suing anyone who aided abetted, assisted them in getting it. the supreme court got the chance to take a good hard look at this mechanism. justices barrett and kavanaugh got cold feet about this mechanism, deciding that perhaps it could also be used in other states to, say, impact gun rights or other substantive issues that they cared about more. the vigilante justice system didn't look good when it was exposed in that light. >> let's talk about the copycat laws. ohio seems to go further than the texas law. are these relevant in the current landscape. is

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joyce, i want to start with you. a couple weeks ago, you and i were talking. i was guilty at the time of saying to you, why are we not seeing more charges. why is stephen bannon not held in contempt or being indicted? we have our answer. you were one saying, be patient, we're seeing this play out. now we're seeing it, he was indicted for not presenting documents and for him to be convicted doj would have to improve he was operating with proper intent. what happens if he says he was doing what his attorney told him to do? and will this indictment get the committee any closer to testimony and getting that information from bannon? >> well, second question first, no, this indictment won't force bannon to testify. what it does is it punishes him for the contempt if he's convicted. in terms of getting a conviction here. doj lays out it case in the indictment and the cases that bannon did nothing when faced with the subpoena. he was required to show up. he was required to provide documents or at least to provide a log that set out why he wasn't providing documents, w