sister joyce cox, a catholic scholar and spiritual director for the seattle archdiocese says a surveyin a book called "the none zone" found that people in the pacific northwest are less religious than the national average. >> the first question was: do you have any faith or church that you follow or you participate in? and the answer was none. so, 67% of those who answered, answered none, but they still claimed in other questions that they believed in god and that they were spiritual. >> reporter: that's the good news, an increasing number of americans say they are searching for spirituality. >> by whatever name you might call the holy one of being. >> reporter: and many, inside and outside of church, are finding it with the help of a spiritual director-- someone to listen and offer guidance in the quest for the experience of god's presence. sometimes it's in groups, like this retreat. most often it's one on one, and deeply personal. >> it isn't as though one has to meet with a person as a spiritual director in order to know the spiritual journey, but it sure helps. >> reporter: liz e