on display at the joyce gordon gallery?>> anybody that you ask, they just have such a great reverence for this space, being a place that, like, literally carved out spaces for artists, for black artists, in particular in the bay area for the last couple of decades. it's just an honor to be here. >> i'll never forget there was a african-american art piece hanging on the wall, and right next to it was an iranian artist. people thought it was the same artist. we're different in a lot of ways, but we have more in common than we think. >> joyce is a pillar of oakland for me. it means a lot to have the proper setting and to meet with somebody that's actually knowing what she's doing. as far as black art and pioneering in black art. >> and this year, you'll be on one of the floats. i'm waving to your crowds of onlookers. >> i will be 80 next year, and people seem to really like me. that's an honor. that's really something. >> as you reflect on 22 years of being in this space, what's in your heart? >> the joy is what i have brought