. >> good evening intern chief and to director joyce hicks this evening i'm standing before you as is a loved one williams i'm concerned about several things how can we expect to get to the three hundred plus recommendations presented by the doj and the blue ribbon panel and can't get though the removal of shooting at the vehicles the doj has made it clear they'll not accept that type of language in the use of force order how can we get to through 1/3rd of recommendations that are presented with the union it continues to resist change the process lacks transparent and seems to be substantive not to mention allegations of commissioners speaking pubically and posturing and stating who they want to be the next chief this is inappropriate we must stop right now we must show that we representative reform we must show we support transparent what i want to do the right thing in the eastbound selection of the next chief the chief i've stated need to be one that has a proven track record and is a viable candidate that will be of our interest to everyone i stand before you also extremely troubl

commissioner president loftus we have quorum also with us the intern chief of police toney chaplin and joyce hicks. >> okay. >> good evening and welcome to the wednesday, november 2, 2016, police commission meeting i'm going to make changes to the agenda given the length of the agenda a long closed session handling discipline matters one and 2 to our meeting next week and go ahead and start with general public comment. >> so public comment will be two minutes given the length of the agenda and the anticipated number of speeches. >> item 3 the public is welcome to address the commission on items not on tonight's agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission. with respect to agenda items, please direct your questions to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or departments or occi personnel. department, occi or commissioners are to respond to questions but may provide a brief response. police commission should enter into debates and please limit your comments to 3 minutes, please. >> two minutes. >> okay general public comment? >> go ahead. >> good evening and welcome.

commissioner president loftus we have quorum also with us the intern chief of police toney chaplin and joyce hicks. >> okay. >> good evening and welcome to the wednesday, november 2, 2016, police commission meeting i'm going to make changes to the agenda given the length of the agenda a long closed session handling discipline matters one and 2 to our meeting next week and go ahead and start with general public comment. >> so public comment will be two minutes given the length of the agenda and the anticipated number of speeches. >> item 3 the public is welcome to address the commission on items not on tonight's agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission. with respect to agenda items, please direct your questions to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or departments or occi personnel. department, occi or commissioners are to respond to questions but may provide a brief response. police commission should enter into debates and please limit your comments to 3 minutes, please. >> two minutes. >> okay general public comment? >> go ahead. >> good evening and welcome.

intern chief chaplin i want to recognize a few people in the chamber with us i want to recognize joyce hicks the executive director as the former office of citizens complaints now the department of police accountability and recognize christen the chief of staff of district attorney george gascon those ladies will not be making a precautisentation but for ques if they arises and keeping my comments get to the meat of everything i want to just again articulate my commitment to move the police reform in san francisco forward the reason he called this joint hearing between the police commission and the board of supervisors because we've got serious work to do it is important we have transparency and frankly all hands on deck approach to solving some of the challenges i want to also recognize a few more people sfpd thank you for joining us and your service want to recognize many communities leaders community coalitions like the justice for mario woods and felicia jones and san franciscans for police accountability and highlight ms. julia and. >> u yolanda that are here julia with the bar associat

>> next speaker. >> and i will say we have overflow room 416. >> the intern chief and director joyce hickstment is dealing with the racism but once past that they need to deal deal with the training the police needs to be trained to understand the public is not trained and shop making summaries the city will respond to a police uniform and start to do it in a holistic manner that will uplift the mindset of police officers maybe we'll come to an understanding thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening mr. lawrence and welcome. >> ladies and gentlemen, of the audience thank you, commissioners once again giving me. >> i want to give a brief talk on deadly force if you a long time in the last 24 hours two police officers were you shot 2, 3, 4 utah an ass nation but if you look at the ultimate cause of san francisco every time a policeman shots someone without a gun they read about that in the newspaper or so it on the net tea say i'm going to get the next cop you have two police officers on the force that in 10 years opened an banana clips into two unarmed civilians for whatever ca

commissioner president loftus we have quorum also with us the intern chief of police toney chaplin and joyce hicks. >> okay. >> good evening and welcome to the wednesday, november 2, 2016, police commission meeting i'm going to make changes to the agenda given the length of the agenda a long closed session handling discipline matters one and 2 to our meeting next week and go ahead and start with general public comment. >> so public comment will be two minutes given the length of the agenda and the anticipated number of speeches. >> item 3 the public is welcome to address the commission on items not on tonight's agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission. with respect to agenda items, please direct your questions to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or departments or occi personnel. department, occi or commissioners are to respond to questions but may provide a brief response. police commission should enter into debates and please limit your comments to 3 minutes, please. >> two minutes. >> okay general public comment? >> go ahead. >> good evening and welcome.

commissioner president loftus we have quorum also with us the intern chief of police toney chaplin and joyce hicks. >> okay. >> good evening and welcome to the wednesday, november 2, 2016, police commission meeting i'm going to make changes to the agenda given the length of the agenda a long closed session handling discipline matters one and 2 to our meeting next week and go ahead and start with general public comment. >> so public comment will be two minutes given the length of the agenda and the anticipated number of speeches. >> item 3 the public is welcome to address the commission on items not on tonight's agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission. with respect to agenda items, please direct your questions to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or departments or occi personnel. department, occi or commissioners are to respond to questions but may provide a brief response. police commission should enter into debates and please limit your comments to 3 minutes, please. >> two minutes. >> okay general public comment? >> go ahead. >> good evening and welcome.

next speaker. >> good evening and welcome sergeant. >> good evening intern chief and to director joyce hicks this evening i'm standing before you as is a loved one williams i'm concerned about several things how can we expect to get to the three hundred plus recommendations presented by the doj and the blue ribbon panel and can't get though the removal of shooting at the vehicles the doj has made it clear they'll not accept that type of language in the use of force order how can we get to through 1/3rd of recommendations that are presented with the union it continues to resist change the process lacks transparent and seems to be substantive not to mention allegations of commissioners speaking pubically and posturing and stating who they want to be the next chief this is inappropriate we must stop right now we must show that we representative reform we must show we support transparent what i want to do the right thing in the eastbound selection of the next chief the chief i've stated need to be one that has a proven track record and is a viable candidate that will be of our interest to everyo

intern chief chaplin i want to recognize a few people in the chamber with us i want to recognize joyce hicks the executive director as the former office of citizens complaints now the department of police accountability and recognize christen the chief of staff of district attorney george gascon those ladies will not be making a precautisentation but for ques if they arises and keeping my comments get to the meat of everything i want to just again articulate my commitment to move the police reform in san francisco forward the reason he called this joint hearing between the police commission and the board of supervisors because we've got serious work to do it is important we have transparency and frankly all hands on deck approach to solving some of the challenges i want to also recognize a few more people sfpd thank you for joining us and your service want to recognize many communities leaders community coalitions like the justice for mario woods and felicia jones and san franciscans for police accountability and highlight ms. julia and. >> u yolanda that are here julia with the bar associat

commissioner president loftus we have quorum also with us the intern chief of police toney chaplin and joyce hicks>> okay. >> good evening and welcome to the wednesday, november 2, 2016, police commission meeting i'm going to make changes to the agenda given the length of the agenda a long closed session handling discipline matters one and 2 to our meeting next week and go ahead and

commissioner president loftus we have quorum also with us the intern chief of police toney chaplin and joyce hicks. >> okay. >> good evening and welcome to the wednesday, november 2, 2016, police commission meeting i'm going to make changes to the agenda given the length of the agenda a long closed session handling discipline matters one and 2 to our meeting next week and go ahead and start with general public comment. >> so public comment will be two minutes given the length of the agenda and the anticipated number of speeches. >> item 3 the public is welcome to address the commission on items not on tonight's agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission. with respect to agenda items, please direct your questions to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or departments or occi personnel. department, occi or commissioners are to respond to questions but may provide a brief response. police commission should enter into debates and please limit your comments to 3 minutes, please. >> two minutes. >> okay general public comment? >> go ahead. >> good evening and welcome.

intern chief chaplin i want to recognize a few people in the chamber with us i want to recognize joyce hickshe executive director as the former office of citizens complaints now the department of police accountability and recognize christen the chief of staff of district attorney george gascon those ladies will not be making a precautisentation but for ques if they arises and keeping my comments get to the meat of everything i want to just again articulate my commitment to move the police reform in san francisco forward the reason he called this joint hearing between the police commission and the board of supervisors because we've got serious work to do it is important we have transparency and frankly all hands on deck approach to solving some of the challenges i want to also recognize a few more people sfpd thank you for joining us and your service want to recognize many communities leaders community coalitions like the justice for mario woods and felicia jones and san franciscans for police accountability and highlight ms. julia and. >> u yolanda that are here julia with the bar associatio

intern chief chaplin i want to recognize a few people in the chamber with us i want to recognize joyce hicks the executive director as the former office of citizens complaints now the department of police accountability and recognize christen the chief of staff of district attorney george gascon those ladies will not be making a precautisentation but for ques if they arises and keeping my comments get to the meat of everything i want to just again articulate my commitment to move the police reform in san francisco forward the reason he called this joint hearing between the police commission and the board of supervisors because we' serve gotus work to do it is important we have transparency and frankly all hands on deck approach to solving some of the challenges i want to also recognize a few more people sfpd thank you for joining us and your service want to recognize many communities leaders community coalitions like the justice for mario woods and felicia jones and san franciscans for police accountability and highlight ms. julia and. >> u yolanda that are here julia with the bar associatio

intern chief chaplin i want to recognize a few people in the chamber with us i want to recognize joyce hicks the executive director as the former office of citizens complaints now the department of police accountability and recognize christen the chief of staff of district attorney george gascon those ladies will not be making a precautisentation but for ques if they arises and keeping my comments get to the meat of everything i want to just again articulate my commitment to move the police reform in san francisco forward the reason he called this joint hearing between the police commission and the board of supervisors because we've got serious work to do it is important we have transparency and frankly all hands on deck approach to solving some of the challenges i want to also recognize a few more people sfpd thank you for joining us and your service want to recognize many communities leaders community coalitions like the justice for mario woods and felicia jones and san franciscans for police accountability and highlight ms. julia and. >> u yolanda that are here julia with the bar associat

commissioner president loftus we have quorum also with us the intern chief of police toney chaplin and joyce hicks >> okay. >> good evening and welcome to the wednesday, november 2, 2016, police commission meeting i'm going to

intern chief chaplin i want to recognize a few people in the chamber with us i want to recognize joyce hicks director as the former office of citizens complaints now the department of police accountability and recognize christen the chief of staff of district attorney george gascon those ladies will not be making a precautisentation but for ques if they arises and keeping my comments get to the meat of everything i want to just again articulate my commitment to move the police reform in san francisco forward the reason he called this joint hearing between the police commission and the board of supervisors because we've got serious work to do it is important we have transparency and frankly all hands on deck approach to solving some of the challenges i want to also recognize a few more people sfpd thank you for joining us and your service want to recognize many communities leaders community coalitions like the justice for mario woods and felicia jones and san franciscans for police accountability and highlight ms. julia and. >> u yolanda that are here julia with the bar association and the cr

commissioner president loftus we have quorum also with us the intern chief of police toney chaplin and joyce hicks>> okay. >> good evening and welcome to the wednesday, november 2, 2016, police commission meeting i'm going to make changes to the agenda given the length of the agenda a long closed session handling disciplin m