jakes and joyce meyer. this interview was recorded at the washington duke and in durham, north carolina. it is part of the tvs college series. >> "blessed" is the name of the book. "blessed: a history of the american prosperity gospel." duke university professor of religion, kate bowler is the author. professor bowler, what is the prosperity gospel? >> it developed a special vocabulary for how exactly faith reaches out and brings back material things. >> host: what is pentecostal? >> guest: pentecostalism is a movement that sprang up in the early 20th century, kind of rough-and-tumble. openness and spiritual guests on the power of god spoken through glossolalia. it's really a science and wonder that god is around the corner. the prosperity gospel books for different things. poster when you say things, this dirty cost both meanwhile if you follow this way? >> guest: pentecostals are material, too. he was one of the most profoundly american things you can say. so the prosperity gospel took that to say so the

jakes, joyce meyer, frederick price. really everywhere there is a mega church and a local celebrity, you'll find a prosperity preacher. but the term itself is very controversial. no one wants to be called a prosperity preacher and that was the burden of writing this book. how do you bring people and that would naturally resist that kind of label. >> did some of those ministers participate in the book? >> they did. i managed to visit a quarter of all of what identified as prosperity mega churches. i interviewed someone representing the ministry from almost every major ministry. i went to every major conference. i was the annoying person pressed up against the glass at every conference hoping to get a glimpse of what was going on. >> what did you hear? what kind of message are these churches preaching? >> i think what surprised me the most was that it wasn't so much about money. i but naturally the prosperity gospel money was its most surprising claim. sure if this is a gospel about money. what i found was people didn't ta

the prosperity of the preachers like joel's team into joyce meyers.he interview was recorded at the washington duke inn during north carolina. >> blessed is the name of the book called american prosperity gospel. kate is the author. professor, what is the prosperity. >> it developed a special vocabulary for how exactly they reach out into the invisible and bring back material. it was brought in to tumble openness to the spiritual gifts on the power of god to be spoken through a spiritual time but it is the times and wonders of the mentality that god is just around the corner and you have to keep your eyes open. so it is one version of that but looks slightly to do different things that pentecostalism. >> when you say things that doesn't mean while. >> they were material, too. it's profoundly american things you could say you're not just an individual do-it-yourself bootstrap are. you're someone that can be a manifestation of the presence. it can be more concretely in the health and a kind of historic tenant. however the little detail in their life wou

jakes and joyce meyer. this any those recorded at the washington duke inn in term of july. >> "blessed" is think of the book, "a history of the american prosperity gospel" is the subtitle. duke university professor of religion kate bowler is the author. professor pohl, what is the prosperity gospel? >> it's a develop -- how faith reaches out into the invisible and brings back material things spend what is pentecostal? >> pentecostalism is a movement that sprang up in the early '20s century, kind of rough and tumble, openness to spiritual gas but centers on the power of god to be spoken what they call spiritual tongues. but it's a wonder mentality that god is just around the corner. you just have to keep your eyes open. so the prosperity gospel is one version of that the looks of slightly different things. >> when you say things, does the prosperity gospel mean wealth if you follow this was? >> sure. pentecostals were materials. they said the body was got so big is one of the most kind of profoundly american