because i want you to go tell that to juan cina. when you're done talking, i'm sure this will really help. listen, if you want to go tell juan pena, if you want to tell the first lady who were their guests this year, whose teenage daughters were savagely murdered, ms-13 gangs' motto is rape, kill and control. and you're laughing about it? you think it's nothing they've overtaken the middle schools. >> you're in a bad spot, and i get it, but i just don't get why you don't fix it. >> because i'm not on the side of child smugglers, i'm not on the side of ms-13 gangs. this president wants to end that. a permanent separation -- the permanent separation between the children -- >> the problem is you're separating families as a funnel of enforcement. >> the problem is the separation of jamal turner and his son. >> have you addressed the problem? >> are you playing an audiotape of them weeping at night missing their children? they're permanently separated from their children. how dare you decide -- >> are they the ones that caused your proble