former senator judd gregg weighs in next. >>> welcome back.e is texas governor, rick perry, just spotted at trump tower. a few moments ago. of course, he's considered to be one of the leading candidates for energy secretary in the trump administration. rick perry there. it's -- many have pointed out, the department of energy is the one he forgot during that famous debate five years ago. but rick perry gets the last laugh. >> without a doubt. it really is stating, not just that angle. going for -- maybe here's what he said. >> i took a call. i heard the call was coming, probably, an hour or two before. i fully understand the one china policy. but i don't know why we have to be bound by one china policy, unless we make a deal with china. having to do with other things, including trade. i mean, look, we're being hurt very badly with china with devaluation, with taxing us heavy at the borders when we don't tax them. >> for more on the impact of trump, be china's stands on business, let's bring in judd gregg. welcome, sir. >> kelly, thank you for h

senator kennedy was very important, and judd gregg was the chairman of the health committee. you have to look at each part of your agenda and figure out how are we getting this was done, will we don we or under reconciliation, which by nature is a partisan exercise. in the trump case, you will try to impress way by doing reconciliation. but that will be deemed a necessity, and i do not fault that strategy either. then they will have to come back behind that and try to put coalition bipartisan on items you cannot do under reconciliation, which as we have all learned includes part of the replacement of the aca. it will be a complicated for sure, it is for everybody, that is the weight you need to approach it in my mind. policy and so the es --egislative rol ms. psaki: one of the things isple have forgotten campaigns are aspirational and your health accountable for basically nothing. true -- and there is a consistency and there should be four what a president talks about when they are running for office and when he cometh office. that was true for president obama, including for

congratulatory call from the president of taiwan to the former new hampshire senator and governor judd gregg, very good to have you. he does raise a good point, and that is i'm the one who's being provocative, accepting a congratulatory call? but what do you make of the dust-up and how big a deal the chinese have made of this? >> i think it's going to be a very big deal. i think the chinese feel that the united states is aggressive in our foreign policy in a way that undermines their status, and you've got to remember that china has 1.3 billion people. that's a billion more people than we have. he was an economy which will be equal to ours in about 5-10 years, and they have a military which will be equal to ours probably in 10-15 years. and so they don't see themselves as step-cousins to us, they see themselves as equals. so you didn't deal with -- you can't deal with them in a cavalier way. plus, they're headed into serious economic pressures in china, and my concern is that the chinese leadership which is an autocracy, they only have to get the politburo to agree with them, will try to tak

when president obama tried to get judd gregg to come into his cabinet and greg said yes, former senatorw hampshire getting a feel for what the economic plan was. i can't back this, can't do it, and left. it is tough to do but perhaps admirable to ring these people in and crafty politically. >> something i forgot about was in this moment everyone is accusing the other side of being paranoid the reason greg's nomination got killed was democrats were terrified a republican might be in charge of the census and that would steal the election. the idea that this is something new to this moment is not quite right. martha: good to see you. bill: we are watching to see who walks through that door next. it will be a who's who of technology leaders from companies including amazon and apple, microsoft and google, facebook and tesla, big hitters in that crowd. big corporate names from general motors, jpmorgan, disney, walmart, pepsi, boeing, general electric. last night in wisconsin paul ryan patched up months of bad blood taking the stage with mister trump, very interesting rally. the latest stop on

ago i stood on this floor to recognize another departing republican senator from new hampshire, judd gregg. i said then about my rip -- relationship with senator gregg something that is also true about my relationship with senator ayotte, that we always manage to disagree without being disagreeable. i am grateful to senator ayotte for this. i'm proud that we've been able to maintain that civility and bipartisanship even in the course of two very close and very tough election cycles. that's the new hampshire way. putting partisanship aside whenever possible and seeking practical, pragmatic solutions to address people's critical needs. as she said, time and time again senator ayotte and i have teamed up to advance legislation of special importance to the granite state, including strongly advocating for veterans, for the ports portsmouth naval shipyard and new hampshire national guard and that new casey 46 tanker. together we fought to secure more resources for law enforcement and treatment professionals on the front lines of the opioid crisis, including this week important new funding in the

congressman george miller in the house, along with boehner and judd gregg, i think it was, was the chairmann't remember. it was 50/50, who was chairman of the health committee. but you know, that's the -- you have to look at each part of your agenda and figure out, okay, how are we getting this one done, how much can we or will we do under reconciliation, which by nature is a partisan exercise, so you're going to drive -- in the trump case, you're going to drive democrats away by doing reconciliation, but that will be deemed a necessity. and i would -- again, i don't fault that strategy either. but then they're going to have to come back behind that and try to put together bipartisan coalitions on items that you can't do under reconciliation, which as we've all learned includes part of the replacement of the aca. so, it will be a complicated first year, as it is for everybody, but you know, that's the way you need to approach it in my mind. >> so, i said i wanted to go third because the policy and the, like, legislative roles are really what our jobs are all about or what communications is

the first time i heard about kelley was from our former colleague jud judd gregg, who td me about thissing stayer -- rising star in new hampshire. it didn't take long for everyone to reach a similar conclusion. kelly is tough, a problem solver and a fighter. senator ayotte doesn't view the challenges of this job as obstacles either. she prefers to call them opportunities. it's how you react to those bends in the road, she says, that will make the biggest difference in your life. during her six years, she's clearly made a difference in the lives of a lot of others as well. senator ayotte has helped make a difference as a champion for jobs and as a champion for the economy. as someone who's helped start a small business, she knows firsthand how regulations can stifle growth. she fought to cut through the red tape and the burdensome rules. she cosponsored a law to help small businesses expand and refinance, and she worked to strengthen manufacturing and support job training. senator aquote has helped make a -- senator ayotte has helped make a difference combating opioid abuse. as a former

senator judd gregg. co-chair of campaign to fix the debt. you guys were almost going at each other by the throat, i thought, before the commercial. >> we were very -- >> before we started the show. >> i expected at any moment a -- >> we were having a discussion about border adjustment taxes. >> we're from the same town. we have to be friend. >> from new hampshire. >> we'll talk about that in the next segment. talked about dynaming scoring which is the crucial issue, maybe it won't be the crucial issue. >> it won't be the crucial issue. >> where do you see the fault lines, if you will, within -- if we have one single block party which has the republicans thinking about tax policy. >> i think the line is whether it's bipartisan or not bipartisan. as tip o'neill says, you don't jam the big ones. you don't jam the big ones because if you jam a major bill like this, people are going to resist it on the other side aggressively. you have to have some fingerprints like this on the other side of the aisle. you need to maintain and you can do that whi