was no harm but him a able to get onto the plane and suffice to help us answer this we've invited judenfrei he's an aviation security operations expert in london welcome to day news africa julian is it really possible that this boy just walked onto the runway climbed onto a plane without anybody noticing this it's very very disturbing because i'm just so you see t.v. and they have actually discovered the c.c.t.v. and they have pictures of the poor little shop 14 years old like clinging on to the on the carriage before the plane took off. the point is that there's no use having c.c.t.v. if nobody is monitoring it and also calls he shouldn't be on the anywhere near the apron at all. so how often does do things like this happen we see it is a clear breach in security making these airports vulnerable to incidences like this how often do we actually see it happen. it does happen quite often but you have to remember there are hundreds of thousands of flights every day and it's all 24 hours a day and all around the world the tragedy is that only one in 6 days actually survives simply because they