what about judges? has the senate been slow on judges? this year the senate has confirmed 36 of the president's second-term nominees to circuit and district courts compared with 14 for president bush at this point in his second term in 2005. these things are never exact because there are vacancies for a variety of reasons. that's a pretty big difference. very hard to argue that it's unfair. but the majority leader did argue successfully that the minority was holding up district judges in order to negotiate for other points. he did that in the second time that a bipartisan group of us sat down to talk about how to change the senate rules so we could move along better. and so what the senate agreed to do earlier this year was to change the rules to make it easier to confirm district judges. here's the procedure. remember, first they have to be on the calendar. how do they get on the calendar? a committee majority puts them on the calendar. what party has the majority in the judiciary committee? the judiciary committee majority is democratic

some judges went above and beyond. it's hard to know it's judges did not disclose everything. it is the unknown. in a lot ofpeak generalities in the sense that i have earnings say between $1000 and $20,000. i'm just throwing it out there. it is never nailed onto a specific total. at least from what i read. guest: some states do as war and totals, but a lot of them do use really broad ranges. there is a big difference and $5 million, and i think for regular people who do not have a lot of income, all of this seems pretty impressive. $10,000 ownership in a stock. i think it may not be significant to a judge who has had a long legal career and has amassed an amount of wealth, but to a regular person, this judge owns $10,000 stock is in the that could be significant. host: catherine from virginia, democrats line. caller: first, the center for public integrity does great work. my question deals with the west virginia supreme court. the justices disclose for a little. -- and very little. they are elected to their seat. what information at a minimum should be required additionally to

per judge. the second circuit handling sophomore complex cases in america, manhattan in new york, 440 cases per judge. and you see the caseload averages around the country. the average is 384 cases per judge. that's about two and a half times the number of cases that the d.c. circuit has per cases. that's why the objections were made to the nominees. i said when this happened, most of these nominees, they would probably be confirmed, that the nominees would probably be confirmed because if it hadn't been for the low caseload, that there was not a question, i suggested without going into detail, i suggested that the nominees were probably qualified and it would be unlikely that they would be filibustered because of lack of qualifications, although i was probably wrong in that, at least one of them, pillard's nomination, really is a -- represents a judge whose views on the law are so outside the mainstream that i don't believe having studied that record subsequent to those remarks that she should

it's just a judge ruling. >> will they appeal the judge's ruling? jahi's family says they need time to think about it, and they have a message for other families. >> for everybody, love your children with all your heart. if you haven't told them today that you love them, go home right now, call them, call them on the phone, and tell them how much they mean to you and how much you louf them. >> make sure you hold them a little bit tighter this christmas. >> and jahi's family says they will spend their christmas by her side praying as they try and decide what to do next. in the news room, joe vazquez kpix 5. >> as to what went wrong with the surgery, that remains under investigation. >>> something old and something new in the pope's first christmas. it was a first one of its kind encounter at the vatican. >>> finishing up critical repairs ahead of christmas day, the work aboard the international space station that included international cooperation. >>> and rewarded for his honesty. the good deed by a las vegas so, this board gives me rates for progre

judge has ruled detroit is eligible for are bankruptcy. here is the detroit mayor now with reaction. let's listen in. >> let me just say that the judge has spoken, and i do think it's a tough day for all of us here in detroit. i believe since i came to office, with the crisis that we had, this was inevitable. i don't think anybody necessarily wanted to go in this direction, but now that we're here, it's more important that we work together as opposed to continuing to fight each other. it's very, very important, i think, that we respect the fact that the emergency manager has the key to the city at this point in time. my relationship with kevin has been positive from the beginning, you know, we don't agree on everything, but at the same token we do it in a very respectful way. i know there are a lot of people that are upset, that are concerned about their futures, but we are now starting from square one. there are going to be a lot of negotiations yet to come. there's going to be a lot of push and pull. i don't think we have a final determi

some judges went above and beyond. it's hard to know it's judges did not disclose everything.s the unknown. in a lot ofpeak generalities in the sense that i have earnings say between $1000 and $20,000. i'm just throwing it out there. it is never nailed onto a specific total. at least from what i read. guest: some states do as war and totals, but a lot of them do use really broad ranges. there is a big difference and $5 million, and i think for regular people who do not have a lot of income, all of this seems pretty impressive. $10,000 ownership in a stock. i think it may not be significant to a judge who has had a long legal career and has amassed an amount of wealth, but to a regular person, this judge owns $10,000 stock is in the that could be significant. host: catherine from virginia, democrats line. caller: first, the center for public integrity does great work. my question deals with the west virginia supreme court. the justices disclose for a little. -- and very little. they are elected to their seat. what information at a minimum should be required additionally to be d

i mean, it's up to the judge. but he didn't come to the court thinking i'm going to turn 18, everything is going to be dropped. that's the misconception the juveniles they have. they think once they're 18 everything goes away. that's not the truth. you're not really behaving yourself right now. >> yeah, i am. i haven't gotten in no trouble in a couple months. >> besides this. >> i ran away from home when i was 17. just wasn't talking to my mom, wasn't getting along real well. and so i didn't go to the court date because i wasn't at home. >> tell me exactly what happened to your arm. >> one of my boys told me that a drug dealer was trying to get rid of his lady. so i had his lady set him up. i was going to rob him and take his weed. >> how did you have the lady set him up? >> because he was trying to get with her. so then she called him over and said that her boy wanted some weed. when she gave him a hug i just started hitting [ bleep ]. then he pulled -- >> hitting him with what? your fist? >> he pulled out a gun

judge leon, the first judge to look a at this in ad adversarial can text. i have served search warrants. if the place say, your honor, in zip code 07602, there's two guys talking about a bank robbery. can you let us listen to every folk in the zip code in hopes we find those two? i would have said get out. take a hike. that's basically what the nsa has been doing, except not with zip codes, they're doing it with the entire country and that's what the judge found in violation. >> we thought we might get the report by now but it's coming out presently, in the next few minutes. we kind of have an idea what's going on. to say it's a harsh rebuke and changes for the nsa might be overstating things. >> the nsa works for the president. the president on his own, without going to congress or involving the court, without involving budgetary issues can dial back the nsa. we don't know what they'll recommend. i doubt it will be over the top because the president and the president's lawyers defended what the nsa has been doing in this case before judge leon. they argued

>> no, judge. >> judge, i would call morris's mother angel to the stand, please foo if the court wereecide that morris need not be locked up any longer, would you be willing to have him released to your custody? >> i'm always willing. but i just wonder if that's what's best for him. >> well, do you think it's best to keep him locked up? >> here, no, i don't. but as far as what helps, i know that there is a problem and he does not need some help. >> does he recognize there's a problem? >> yes, he does. >> why do you say that. >> he does admit there's an anger problem. >> do you think it's appropriate that he go home with you >>. >> i'll try. that's what you want to do? >> i'll try. >> after listening to all the arguments and assess agwitnesses i would say at that time mother, mrs. moseley certainly gain her heartfelt testimony and i could feel for her as a parent when she said she's willing but i also think what she didn't go on to say which i think she would admit to is he's a little bit of a handful for her more importantly he's out on street doing dangerous things. we all know when

two judges rule differently over the n.s.a. data collection program. now will the supreme court get involved? >> and a former lebanese government official with ties to the united states is killed in a mass explosion in beirut. >> hello, welcome to

and will soon have to face the judge.ht now, he must face his mom. >> so i can get out tomorrow? >> i don't know. do you think you should? why? you didn't do anything? you didn't go to court. >> i know. i was scared. >> you were scared? >> because they said they were going to give me two years in placement. >> you should have just gone to court. >> i'm going to court now. >> uh-huh. you don't have a choice. they told me they took you to the hospital. you test positive for marijuana. so you been smoking huh? >> i don't know. >> you don't know the? >> for stress. >> you feel like you need something to calm you down? that's what you should have been telling the counselor and the therapist if that's how you feel. that's what i'm talking about, the things you're telling me, you need to tell them. you may have a chemical imbalance. who knows? there's medicine for that. and people are not crazy who take it. >> i told people. they didn't come help. >> how do you know? you can't go on with a negative train of thought. an what make

so there is judge leon saying, 34-year-old constitutional thinking is now outdated but then judge leontitutional thinking for the most dramatic flourish in his opinion. "indeed i have little doubt that the author of our constitution, james madison who cautioned us to beware the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power would be aghast." that line is there as nothing more than a rhetorical flourish, an attention getter for the media. that line has no legal meaning or import. it's something judges do all the time to try to align their decision with the great minds of the founding fathers. there is no more abused judicial advice to invoke one of the founding fathers and assign a judicial opinion to him. and politicians do it all the time, too, telling you that the founding fathers would be aghast at this or that. let's just get something straight about the founding fathers. we have no idea how they would react to the modern world. judge leon's opinion is a well-written, well-reasoned opinion that might prevail on appeal and it might not. bu

another judge says, it's just fine. where does this battle over your privacy goes next. >>> assassination in beirut, the question now, who did it and why. >>> and changing times.

the judge has a lot of leeway.e, anderson is 19 and a half years, the max life. >> interesting. appreciate it. thanks. >>> a truly bizarre story got more bizarre. the interpreter called out as a fake by south african's deaf community. he says he was having a schizophrenic episode. what he says he saw and heard on the stage on a 360 followup next. 3nhj [ lane ] do you ever feel like you're growing old waiting for your wrinkle cream to work? clinically proven neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair. it targets fine lines and wrinkles with the fastest retinol formula available. you'll see younger looking skin in just one week. one week? that's just my speed. rapid wrinkle repair. and for dark spots rapid tone repair. from neutrogena®. >>> the interpreter accused of signing essentially gibberish is speaking out and defending his work. he said he's been doing the job for many years, and claim, quote, he's a champion, unquote, of signing. he's saying he got into this line of work for a special reason. listen to what he told cnn

bisi, the judge has made the ruling. what is at steak here?> reporter: there are a number of things at steak. retiree pensions are on the line. these are checks that people depend on every month. and masterpieces at the detroit institutes of art could be auctioned off to help get the city back on financial footing. this hearing has been going on for about an hour now. and the judge put together a 180-page report detailing his decision to declare the city bankrupt. as you can see behind me there are about 60-plus protesters that are opposed to this bankruptcy. they have been out here chanting, no justice, no peace, and no bankruptcy. and they have been doing this for the past four months. >> how many pensioners will be effected in the city of detroit based on these rulings? >> reporter: there will are about a little over 20,000 pensioners, as i mentioned, who depend on these checks. just the other day we interviewed a retiree every month he receives about $800 from the city, and right now he is terrified. it's unclear if the judge is going to m

they don't want more judges. and, actually, we know that the judges on the d.c. circuit have said they don't need more judges. we know they took off last summer and they take off long summers, unlike any other court of appeals, from may 16 to september 16. they didn't hold court from may 16 to september 16. the next-lowest circuit in america is -- has almost twice as many cases per judge as the d.c. circuit. and i know how frugal the presiding officer, as governor of maine, didn't -- part of that yankee frugality that they're famous for, knew how to manage his money when he was governor. and it cost $1 million a year, we're told, to maintain a federal judgeship. that's a lot of money. so we're adding three judges to the d.c. court of appeals that absolutely are not needed. absolutely are not needed. and this senate refused to confirm them. we voted not to confirm these judges and blocked moving to a final vote, and they lacked the three-fifths vote to confirm those judges. senator schumer said, we're going to get them done one way or the other. we don't worry abo

the judge appointed ironically, the judge today was appointed by president clinton. the ruling last week came from a bush judge. >> it is ironic. >> go figure, right? the judge today begins at 9/11 and he looks at it from a standpoint of how crucial this is to prevent the next 9/11, the next attack. i think the other -- the other side of this issue looks at the issue of privacy and says the government is collecting way too much information, knows way too much and it can't prove that this does anything to keep us safer. you know, that's the dichotomy here, that's the difference of opinion you hear every day on this issue all across the country. >> playing out in courts as well. >> exactly. >> evan perez, thank you so much. that's a big legal win for the nsa but is that phone surveillance really effective and should the government continue the program? joining me now to talk about this, republican congressman peter king of new york. he serves on the homeland security and intelligence committees. congressman, what do you think the ultimate result is here? do you think t

and judge pauly relied on precedent. judge leon relied on exclamation points throughout his judgment not precedent. >> also said this is likely unconstitutional. this collection violates the 4th amendment, you disagree? >> i do. i'm not a judge, i'm not a lawyer i do know there is one controlling supreme court case, smith versus maryland, in which the court has said in 5-3 decision that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy over this kind of data. >> once you hand your data over to a third party. >> right. >> now it's also been explored that tapped fiber optic cables abroad, circumvented or capped encryption codes and covertly included code. all that have is -- >> against people not protected by the 4th amendment to the constitution, the constitution doesn't tore in to the conversation. >> what are your thoughts currently on edward snowden? have they evolved in any way. >> not at all. >> what do you think he is? >> i used to say he was a defector, there's a history of defection to moscow. he seems to be part of t

not just any members of the judiciary, two federal judges, district judges, pretty high up, one in new york, one in washington, d.c, coming to completely different conclusions on basically the same issue. take a look. >> in his ruling federal judge william pauley of new york, connected fragmented and fleeting communications. he said the 9/11 attacks might have been prevented if the phone data collection system had existed then to help investigators connect the dots before the attacks occurred. he says the government's learned from its mistakes and has adapted to confront a new enemy, a terror network capable of executing attacks across the world. he said the collection.data was part, after former edward snowden being pleakd details, on american are networks every day. the aclu's lawyers arced the government's interpretation of authority under the patriot act was so broad it could justify the mass collection of financial, health and even library records of innocent americans without their knowledge. the aclu says it will appeal judge pauley's ruling. misapplies a narrow precedent to rea

the judge has ordered keeping the 13-year-old on a ventilator ends at 5:00 p.m. monday, but before that happens, jahi's family wants her in a new facility. >> we found out that someone is willing to take jahi away from children's hospital to a facility nearby here in the bay area to treat her, give her an -- nutrition and give her a fighting chance. >> even that won't happen easily. the eighth grader needs surgery to insert a feeding tube before she can be mooufld, and children's hospital refuses to do it. the hospital continues to stand on a judge's ruling earlier this week that jahi mcmath is legally dead. >> the judge did not authorize or order any surgical procedure or transfer to another facility. children's hospital does not believe performing surgical procedures on the body of a deceased person is an appropriate medical practice. >> reporter: i did talk to the family's attorney just a little while ago, and hes that, again, they are willing to do whatever they have to do. he says he has members of his staff working to draft documents to file in court today

and this judge gutted, gutted measure b. >> this isn't the end of measure b. i'm confident that both sides will appeal the judge's decision that didn't go in their favor and we'll work through the courts and to the supreme court >> but police union indicated it may have more to say about the court ruling. the president has agreed and acknowledge there's is a need to address pension liabilities and willing to sit down to iron out differences now, another key point, the judge did agree the city can spend savings including police officers and restoring library hours as well as other city services cut back by the tight budget. live in city hall, abc7 news. >> more money news, apple gets a deal in china stocks rise to get another record high. >> cory johnson is here with the report, cory? >> yes. i am. has subscribers and this after more than six years of talks. tim draper wants to split up the state of california into six separate states. a press conference held to outline some of the reasons why he wants to make it quote, properly represented saying a divided sta

what do you say to the judge. this was a first time there was a hearing that unlike the fisa court was an adversarial proceeding. >> this was not the first time. last month there was a hearing of a case, the case of someone providing financial and other support to al shabaab. it took place in the southern district of california. the judge was jeffrey miller. he found the 215 program was constitutional. and the point of issue was specifically that. so you have one case a month ago, which has not been reported on that i've seen, and you have the case of a few days ago which has been reported on extensively. what does this all mean? this means that clearly it's going to go up on appeal and go to the supreme court. i very much would urge the court to take the case, because the case of smith v. maryland, which said there is no right under the fourth amendment to an individual to protect this kind of data was issued in 1979. that's over 30 years ago. the situation has changed then. so has the need for this. there was no

judge, judge david rhodes, actually ruling that detroit can declare bankruptcy, and the big headline here, dennis, the biggest one is that pensioners for that city are like every other creditor in the city of detroit. this could actually affect other cities facing the same situation -- dennis: unions and others that argued that the state constitution stopped the city from being able to cut pensions, and now a court has said, no, that's not so. let's get to jeff flock who is live on the scene there. jeff, do you have more? >> reporter: i tell you, we've been talking to a lot of people that represent the unions as well as members of the unions. i have got gayle turner here, the vice president of the retired police officers. >> retired detroit members association. >> reporter: in the had to surprise you. >> no, it didn't. i sat through the trial for those ten days and just looking and listening to all the testimony, i was not surprised by what judge rhodes, his legal opinion was today. >> reporter: what is the potential impact on your members? >> it's going to vary, because in our assoc

a well respected judge. look, the united states nsa surveillance program is broader than any program in our history. it applies to every american citizen. it's not a targeted security. i'm all in favor of national security. i worked on the patriot act. >> you see a theme emerging here. the first judge. they have chosen not to enforce our border security laws. the second judge, he's trying the to avoid public oversight to engage in governance by secret law. the third judge talking about how this is almost an orwellian government. the judiciary serves an important function. they are the final check on other branches that get out offal control. it brings us back to how important it is that they have now changed the rules on how you get a judge on the bench and president obama now has a lot of control over that. >> this is precisely the reason he wanted control. precisely the reason why harry reid, the majority leader in the senate changed the rules, exercised the nuclear option. they have the constitutional rig

>> i -- i think that is one of the major facts that the judge gets wrong in this case. the 9/11 commission did an investigation and determined that there were at least four instances in 2001 when the intelligence agencies could have identified those hijackers or plotters in the u.s., and failed to do so. it wasn't a problem with collection. it was a problem with analysis. and the idea that we're any safer by collecting all this metadata, you know, courts and congress and the president's own review group have weighed in and said you know what, it's not working. >> but isn't a problem with that argument someone would say if you had four missed opportunities, if you had five, you do have better odds. >> in this case, they are adding hay to the haystack and not actually identifying real threats. >> this is a big topic, let's go to our social media producer hermella aregawi. >> how would the supreme court rule if they took up the nsa case? >> that's a great question. again i would go back to the 2012 decision that the court had found that warrantless gps tracking was unconst

decision, you have the judge that says this is constitutional but it followed the judge saying this orwellian and likely unconstitutional. why the difference of opinion between these two judges? >> i think one got it right and one got it wrong. judge pauley was not very skeptical for the government's claims. the government make claims about the effectiveness of the program , the necessity of the program, claims that were contradicted by information already the public record. information put into the public record by government officials. judge pauley nonetheless defer to the claims in court, which is a disappointment to us. >> let's get back to glenn greenwald. i just read the first couple of paragraphs about the garage doors that would not open because the garage door openers were actually operating on the same frequency of the nsa, which was really fast expanding in san antonio at the time. could you take it from there? the significance of this and this particular unit and how significant it is? >> one thing i think that it underscores is this was in the community that had no idea

he is one of the most aggressive judges against the detention programs at judge guan tan mow.ne of the most respected judges in the country for constraints on the nsa. you couldn't have asked for a better judge. >> let me jump in on that. >> sure. >> and say i think there is no doubt this judge has a record of standing up to administrations of both parties and appointed by bush but on the guan tan mow case, particularly in 2008, took on that administration. rejected claims on security from both administrations. your thoughts, though, on the rejection of the precedent from the '70s. >> what he said was crucial. he said in 1979, the supreme court approved a very limited form of collecting one person's phone records for a limited investigation. and that has absolutely nothing to do, essentially, with what the government is doing now. which is collecting all people's phone records and then storing them for five years and engaging in very sophisticated forms of analysis so that they can trace who our network of associations and friends are, what we do in life, who it is we're speak

cath what did the judge have to say?> well, in his 54-page ruling supporting the program and dismissing a lawsuit by the american civil liberties union, the judge basically called the nsa's program a blunt tool which works because it effects everything. he also went on to say will is no proof the government used the data for anything other than to stop terrorist tashgs. and called it a counterpunch to the al-qaeda network. and the mentioned the fourth amendment, the judge said in his ruling that the right to be free of searches and seizures is fundamental but not absolute. it was a fairly lengthy ruling, and he -- this now means that the nsa is free for the moment to continue collecting data as it sees fit. >> and this is the exact opposite of the ruling just 11 days ago in washington, d.c. are we looking another messy and prolonged legal battles ahead? >> yeah, very much so. a d.c. judge ruled that the program unconstitutional. but the judge in that case did not enforce his ruling because he said in light of the signifi

what about the judge? does she give signs that she is feeling public pressure to change course in any way? >> reporter: not a bit, in fact, judges here in texas are elected, as well. but we're told she is not seeking re-election next year. and we've put in numerous calls, cnn has tried for a week to see if she has a comment to explain the rationale behind this, and we have never heard back from her. >> the victims' families have filed lawsuits against the couch family for their son's actions, right? >> reporter: yes. sergio molina's family say they they have a million dollar lawsuit against the couch family. they have already racked none the short time since this accident happened, and he has been comatose, essentially, they racked up more than a million in medical bills in the last several months. and this is the way he will be for the rest of his life so they are looking for money to cover those expenses. >> i want to bring in criminal defense attorney sunny hostin, and mark geragos. do you actually beli

judge mary beth bonaventura and her five fellow judges will hear more than 3,000 cases in a year.me will be simple detention hearings. while others will be trials for serious offenses. 16-year-old ayryana has spent the weekend in detention for disorderly conduct at a high school football game. it's not her first time in juvenile. with two previous trips to the courtroom, the judge will have to decide whether ayryana should remain locked up or be allowed to go home with her mother. >> i want to tell the judge the whole story and just let her know that i -- i am going to school. i have changed a lot since the last time i have been to court. >> with the long, tense weekend behind her, it is finally ayryana's turn to tell her story. >> tell me what happened. >> me and my brother and a friend, we was going in line to get our tickets for the football game. and the principal had stopped me, and she said, well, um, i don't go to the school no more so either i had to leave or i had to go to the other side. when she came up, she came up with a police officer. so i said, um, okay, well i got

i really don't -- the judge is really faced with a tough decision.her. >> i feel like i'm being strangled. it's just -- i don't know. i have no clue. i don't know what it is, but it's like time ain't going by like it used to. >>> 17-year-old michael is back in detention for the third time. before appearing in front of the judge michael meets with his court-appointed attorney, don ruck. >> how are you? have a seat. you're being charged with burglary. serious charge particularly given you have a prior charge for burglary that you're on probation for. the purpose of today's court hearing is whether you stay here while these charges against you pend or whether you're released to your mother's custody. the things the court looks at is whether you're a threat to yourself or to the public and whether or not you're likely to return to all future court hearings. if the court finds you're a threat or you're not going to return, you're going to stay locked up. what do you think should happen? >> i think i should be released on house arrest. because i have a job

the judge says the nsa's methods may well violate the fourth amendment.ow, this federal ruling carries so much weight because it's the first against the government spying program. a federal judge has ruled the national security agency should stop its full collection of american's phone records. saying it is likely unconstitutional. under the nsa program, the government said, it collects and stores metadata on hundreds of millions of telephone calls in the hunt for potential terrorists. >> what number called, what number, what time, and what date, how many times, and how long, that's metadata. >> reporter: in a 68-page ruling, judge richard leon said the government surveillance program was almost orwellian. and said i have little doubt that the author of our constitution james madison would be aghast at what the judge said amounts to an unreasonable such. the justice department responded saying, we believe the program is constitutional as previous judges have found." president obama put together a commission to look into the nsa practices shortly after nsa

a different federal judge said it is likely unconstitutional and this sets up a clash of federal judges. we'll have to wait and see what happens next. >>> time for a quick check of the head lines. a top russian diplomat said the year deadline for removing syria's toxic weapons will not be met. there are concerns about interference. >>> police in louisiana searching for clues after a man killed four dead and three wounded and killed himself. >>> in denver, the recreational sell of marijuana and handing out more than 40 so far and allowing owners of medical pot shops to sell to everyone 21 and older. >>> growing back lash to the budget signed by president obama yesterday that keeps the government open at the risk of those who risk their lives. it unfairly targets the military retired. we have more in dc. >> reporter: yeah, greg, there is intense lobbying by the veterans groups and bills introduced to repeal parts of the deal. president obama signed that budget deal in hawaii yesterday. it calls for a military increase in cost of living. they say that the measure comes at a terrible price

>> i think what you see is if he can't judge, the pope who can. that means nobody can judge.id you can't be people who judge. you have to be people who approach what christ would do. kroi christ was compassionate. this pope said you're not about judging that's god's job. that's what he's trying to do. we've seen it over and over again washing the feet of women on holy thursday. again breaking a barrier and not only that a muslim woman. so i think what he's saying this is where the church needs and that's why people are responding to him. >> just to sum, is this a new agenda or simply a new philosophy? >> i think it's a new perspective. he's shining the light somewhere else. you mentioned pope benedict. pope benedict was a great theologyian. we read this pope's the first one, joy of the gospel and very down to earth. we can understand it. you don't need a theology degree to understand it. he's making it more accessible for the ordinary person and the ordinary person looks and says gee what the church is about. i can buy into that. >> so he's communicating better the overall me

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a federal judge saying yes. but my next guest is saying that judge is dead wrong. michael mukasey saying why he believes the program can prevent another 9/11. martha: remember this moment? plowed into a crowd of people in venice beach. he will find out if he faces murder charges. wait until you hear what his defense is. bill: a desperate search for the boyfriend considered the suspect in the case. >> we have been pursuing this all along. i think it's just taken this amount of time to get to national exposure with the case. so nothing has changed with us. we have been fighting for the truth since day one. for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust. you stand behind what you say. there's a saying around here, around here you don't make excuses. you make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up, and make it right. so people think the kind of accountability has gone missing in e placesets where it's needemost. but i know you'll still find it when you know where to

a dallas judge says it is.he judge sentenced a teenager who killed four people in a drunk driving accident to probation. it was the first, too rich to know how to take responsibility an affliction called afffluenza, demanding harsher penalties. joining us is jessie o'neil who popularized the termty traits which is a loss of emotional asset. >> should it be used jesse as a defensmary defense in a murder case. >> like self defense? >> i don't understand. >> like self defense, let me stay that back. any kind of defense in a legal case you don't see that as real- >> what i mean is the that's the only legal way i've seen affluenza used. >> coined the term should it be used for a young man to get off without much punishment from the court? >> no, i don't think so. >> i guess a lot of people sort of wonder, i mean, defense aside, whether or not this affluenza really exists. you say it's not about money. it's more obsession, a cultural malaise, nones that e happy. >> so looking at that case in dallas do you think this

they cook up a fake fight over judges. if a fight over judges that aren't even needed. i wanted to be talking about too.hing else, but it won't work. the parallels between this latest skirmish are just too obvious to ignore. think about it. promisedity leader over and over again that he wouldn't break the rules of the senate. this is not an ancient promise. the 14th on meet the press, he said we are not touching judges. this year. we are not touching judges. then there are the double standards. democrats were in the minority and argued strenuously for the thing they now say we will have to do without. namely, the right to extended debate on lifetime appointments. they believe one set of rules , andd apply to them another set to everybody else. he may have just as well said if you like the rules of the senate, you can keep them. huh? if you like the rules of the senate, you can keep them? just the way so many of the democrats now believe that obamacare is good enough for their constituents, but when it comes to their political allies and staff, that is different. let's n

we have to remember these judges on the fisa court are federal judges, just like judge leon.is program and given authorization for the nsa to engage in these kind of activities subject to, of course, the oversight, the restrictions impoed by congress. >> sir, this is thomas roberts. it seems as if the american public has never been more engaged because of edward snowden at this point of what the nsa is doing and what it means to all of our liberties here in this country. so when you talk about congressional oversight and the conversations that need to be had between congress and the nsa or organizations that are trying to collect this meta data. at with what point do we need to draw the line? because just because the nsa can do this type of operation and pull all of our e-mails or know all of our telephone calls, how they're placed, should they be able to do it? and are we operating now in a system of government where it's better to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission? >> well, as to whether or not this is good policy, that's a debate that occurs within congress eve

this kid that killed four people gets off. >> i could take judge after judge after judge, prosecutor after prosecutor after prosecutor where there's disparity because of race and means. what i'm telling you this should be a pivot point for a discussion as to why we don't have the rehab facilities, why we don't have the juvenile justice facilities to handle somebody like this. because i think what she was thinking is she took a look at this kid and said, he's never going to survive. >> who cares if he doesn't survive, mark? that's ridiculous. >> then why don't we give him the death penalty? >> it is interesting. i've heard a lot of people on this program who are supporting the decision of this judge concerned about this kid's survivability in prison. i don't hear a lot of people saying, wow, i'm worried about this young african-american defendant and how he's going to do in prison. >> that infuriates me you have the guts to say that. the juvenile justice system -- who cares he doesn't do well in prison? he's not supposed to do well in prison. >> stop misusing the terms. he's supposed

and the judge, he had to think about it. he didn't really know what to do. so i'm still here. >> it takes time for the juvenile courts to figure out how to best handle each individual case. and in kevin's situation available beds at placement facilities are hard to come by. >> being here for all them days it gets to you after a while. especially when you don't got your mom. it's all real hard. >> in the juvenile court i think if we have any indicator of what's going to happen in someone's life is looking first at the family and how supportive or not, how healthy or not is the family. i mean, without family involvement and support, the kids are never going to be successful. >> for years, msnbc has been documenting the tragic stories that unfold in america's juvenile justice system. with extraordinary access from the indiana supreme court, we've been allowed to take our cameras inside a world where they are by law generally forbidden. in the intake department, elizabeth prepares to process yet another juvenile. this time a 17-year-old girl arriving at the dete

the judge has a lot of leeway.imum here, anderson is 19 and a half years, the max life. >> interesting. appreciate it. thanks. >>> a truly bizarre story got more bizarre. the interpreter called out as a fake says he was having a schizophrenic episode. what he says he saw and heard on the stage on a 360 followup next. ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. ♪ ♪ i wanna spread a little love this year ♪ ♪ i wanna spread a little love and cheer ♪ [ male announcer ] this december, remember: you can unwrap craftsmanship, inspiring capability, and some of the best offers of the year on our most versatile luxury utility vehicles at the lexus december to remember sales event. this is the pursuit of perfection. our holiday storefronts. what do you see here? angels? you know, something like that. reality check, not all 4g lte coverage maps look alike. i see footprints in the snow. where?! it looks like a holly leaf... the gingerbread man? it's just barely the united states. w

after judge after judge, prosecutor after prosecutor after prosecutor where there is disparity because of race and means. what i'm telling you is it should be a pivot point for a discussion as to why we don't havehab facilities and the juvenile justice facilities, because i think she looked at the kid and said he wouldn't survive. >> that is ridiculous, who cares if he doesn't survive. >> why don't we give him the death penalty? >> it is interesting, i have heard a lot of people on the program who are supporting the decision of this judge, concerned about this kid's surviveability in prison, i don't hear a lot of people saying that they're worried about them. >> the bottom line, the juvenile justice system favors rehab, but not when somebody kills four people, who cares if he doesn't do well. >> he is supposed to go to a juvenile justice type facility. the whole idea of juvenile -- the juvenile system is rehabilitation. if you want to put him in prison, you have to make him an adult. that is why we have direct filing. now, when sunny says i'm the one who is not talking about racial dis

and my view is that judge pauly is right in this case. >> i'm sorry, judge pauly. here's a question i have for you. is the way the two judges approached their decisions after the decisions were made different as well? judge leon issued an injunction against the n.s.a. data collection but stayed that injunction pending appeal. judge pauly issued no such action after his ruling. should he have done something pending appeal? did he even have the latitude to do that? >> there is nothing for him to do pending appeal. he said there was nothing to claim and dismissed the case. the fact is the plaintiff can take an appeal if they want. i'm sure they will. and so there's -- there was nothing to enjoin. the program stayed in place. after both decisions, the program stayed in place. judge leon stayed his order that would have stopped it and judge pauly didn't issue any order that would have stopped it so there was nothing for him to stay. >> when you look at the decisions and where they came from and how they were made, there were a lot of interweaving lines here. you have a

we believe the facts are not clearly -- the judge didn't -- the judge render add good decision, as youerns about the facts and we'll argue those on appeal, as well. we don't believe the city negotiated in good faith, and we don't believe you can find impracticality by coming in on 30 days and then running into bankruptcy. >> the judge echoed the city's argument that you can't negotiate with a stone wall. that the unions weren't willing to negotiate. what's your response to that? >> i think that's an unfair characterization. we have previously negotiated concessionary agreements, and they've been binding and they have affected retiree benefits as well as active benefits, and we came up with at least three mechanisms you can use to bind retirees even if you can't get every single person in detroit to agree. so we think that's an overstatement, and we if i if there had been time and actual good-faith negotiations there could have been potentially a solution that might have avoided this bankruptcy case and been less scary and less devastating for the citizens of detroit. >> reporter: he al

they cook up a fake fight over judges. a fake fight over judges that aren't even needed. i get it. as i indicated, i wanted to be talking about something else, too. if i had to be talking about dogs getting insurance when millions of americans lost theirs. but it won't work. the parallels between this latest skirmish are just too obvious to ignore. think about it. just think about it. the majority leader promised over and over again that he wouldn't break the rules of the senate. this is not an ancient promise. july the 14th on meet the press, he said we are not touching judges. this year. we are not touching judges. then there are the double standards. the democrats were in the minority and argued strenuously for the thing they now say we will have to do without. namely, the right to extended debate on lifetime appointments. they believe one set of rules should apply to them, and another set to everybody else. he may have just as well said if you like the rules of the senate, you can keep them. huh? if you like the rules of the senate, you can keep them? just the way so many of th

the judge here in new york said it's legal. the judge in washington says it's illegal.. and we'll see what happens. >> all right, so paul, let me put this to you because just yesterday, we were talking about president obama a few months back calling al qaeda, quote, a shadow of its former self. but listen to what the judge said here. no doubt, he says, the bulky telephony met adata program vacuums up information about virtually every telephone call to, from, or within the united states, but it represents the government's counterpunch to eliminate al qaeda's terror network. so this judge says because of al qaeda, we need this nsa program. so how do we reconcile these two statements? >> well, you know, the judge interestingly enough, addresses that specifically. he says we can reconcile the needs of liberty with the needs of security. he write a very powerful decision here. in which he talks about the 9/11 attack. he talks about one of the 9/11 hijackers in saying that if we had the information, the telephone identifier, that is really the subject of this metadata lawsuit

federal judge in new york declares the n.s.a.'s bulk collection of phone data to be lawful directly contradicting a court opinion from washington d.c. that mass surveillance violates the constitution also. the reporter who broke the edward snowden leaks lashes out a fellow journalist at a hackers conference in germany for giving governments an easy ride and failing to put the spotlight on official wrongdoing. plus more than one hundred fifty detainees at guantanamo bay prepare to enter and other year without charge or do you process we bring you our special report from america's notorious military prison. to the a mosque you're watching our team with welcome to the program a massive anti-government protest has spiraled out of control in central istanbul the rallies erupted over a top level corruption investigation that's forced a major cabinet reshuffle and resulted in the arrest of twenty four people including the sons of two ministers and the head of a state owned bank by minister insists the probe is a smear campaign but that h