kicking us off this hour, justice correspondent for the nation, and judith brown dianes, executive director of the national office. i think hayes gets it so right there, and imagine -- manages to really zoom in on mistakes here and i will talk about all of the politics of all of this but if your kid who doesn't feel seen in your classroom, who doesn't feel seen in your community, who is looking for proof that you matter, and that your life is valid, what is going to be the impact on that kid? >> well, unfortunately, it's come to mean that those students will feel like they are erased. and that their school is not safe for them and they're not accepted and that's what these folks want to happen. on the other side, it really does not want to have conversation about race, about sexual ty, and they don't want to be inclusive and so this is connected to politics, and we will talk about that, but for the young people who are experiencing it, this is very frightening. we have been here before. whether it was the studies or the discussions about race and discipline, and the schools the pipeline, th