if we look at the conviction of judith ward, if we look at the maguire seven, the youngest of the... children convicted was 13 years old and scarred for life by his prison experiences, patrick mcguyer recording in his book my father's watch, and this was terrifying time to be irish in britain, and you had the sense that, okay, they happen to latch to those irish men, but if it hadn't have been those, they'd have found others, and i think from having been quite a settled and contented and hard-working immigrant community, it became fearful and somewhat paranoic irish community for quite a long..." period of time, certainly into the 1990s. this would have been a period uh, when you had lot of treads men building the economy of britain at the time. i mean, if we're talking about builders, tradesmen, bricklers, there would have been vast employment through britain to the time, and and obviously this this would have been badly affected, but i'm sure it also had an effect on the economy at the time also, has has there been any research into that, has it been spoke about it much detail? it'