i also ran across judson powell.judson powell, sue, and myself became a team to create a program in watts. i would say that it was definitely a group effort that made that little school possible. lewis: the initial idea for the center was to create an art school, and that, i guess, didn't sit well with noah because, i believe, in his mind he wanted to provide this opportunity for the people in the community to express themselves in ways they hadn't done before and through that activity to, you know, kind of get to know each other and then, you know, talk about larger issues. purifoy: art is the most uncontaminated discipline existing in the world. there was excellent opportunity to interrelate it with even poverty. [indistinct chatter] jefferson: ayou have the opportunity to try to live the american dream and allegedly move up, no matter what your racial background, t housing becomes available to the next group that's trying to move. the difference is for african-americans, as we desegregated, what got left behind we