with attorney judy clark onboard are we looking at another plea deal? on the record, greta van susteren. >> it's a good possible but first expect a big fight from judy clark. she has been doing death penalty work for year. more experience than anyone necessary the nation. there will be a good fight put up by judy clark and the rope she puts up a good fight is because the constitution demands it. and it isn't can would you like to do it. she has lots of experience to put up a big fight and her goal is to save his life. >> neil: when she hassed anded at -- has succeeded at this stuff in the past what does she use to try to sway folks? >> first of all, she wants to -- going to try to fine out whether or not what he has -- he has not been indicted -- is a death penalty offense. she may then go to the department of justice, because the department of justice will make the decision whether or not to seek the death penalty. she'll try to fight it there. then once -- if the justice department seeks the death penalty she'll try to fight it in court and do everyth

death penalty expert, judy clark.s include susan smith, the unabomber, ted kaczynski and jared loughner who killed six people and wounded congresswoman gabrielle giffords in tucson. all those high-profile clients avoided the death penalty and got life sentences, instead. inaddition to discovery of the female dna, fbi agents have met up with the mysterious misha. he's the man some family members say helped radicalize tamerlan. pamela has more on the latest on the investigation. let's start with the female dna found on bomb fragments. >> reporter: yeah, john. authorities found female dna on one of the bombs used in the boston marathon bombing. we don't know who that dna belongs to or whether its presence means that a woman was involved in the attack in any way. it appears that the investigation is focusing on katherine russell. she is the widow of tamerlan tsaranev. we saw fbi agents enter the home she was staying in in rhode island. they carried out two black equipment case and clear plastic bags marked dna samples. au

this is what judy clark does.ountry better at it, and i think the combination of knowing how to negotiate with the government, plus knowing how to research your client's life, that's how it worked for her so far. she does have her work cut out for her. >> dzhokhar's lawyers are spending more and more time with him. we know or we believe he is not talking with investigators anymore. what kind of conversations do you believe they are having with his defense attorneys? >> well, i think, you know, one of the issues we have here is we are operating on cable news time. we think this is all going to be resolved very quickly. one of the things that a lawyer like judy clark does is slow everything down. i think they might not be talking to him at all. they might be saying, you go get healthy. that's your job right now. then we'll talk to you later. time is the ally of the defense. the country is mobilized. it's angry right now. this is exactly not the time the defense wants to be negotiating about anything. slow things dow

that's why judy clark's been hired. she doesn't do innocence. issue of innocence is not really realistically on the table here. the only issue here is what he's sentenced to and judy clark's one and only job is to get him a life sentence and not the death penalty, and i don't know if she'll succeed, but there's no one better in the entire united states at doing it than she is. >> bob, what do you make of possible links or alleged connections or maybe it's just a coincidence between tsarnaev, tamerlan, going to dagestan and these two militants killed by russian forces. you have this young boxer from canada who turned into a jihadist who also was killed in dagestan around the time that tamerlan was there. >> well, anderson, look, this dagestan is clearly jihad central and has been for a couple years. this guy goes back home, he's in his mind, he's accepted global jihad, he's fascinated by it, he's mostly converted to it. this is if reports are right. the chances of him nothe jihadi just out of pure curiosity i think are zero. the question is getti

death penalty expert judy clarke.ts in the past, including susan smith, who was convicted of drowning her two children. this judith clarke also represented unabomber ted kaczynski and tucson shooter jared loughner. all these clients avoided the death penalty getting life sentences, instead. we're now joined by richard barrett. he's the former director of counterterrorism operations for mi-6 and director of the suppan group. let me start by asking you about this dna evidence. investigators say they're finding evidence of female dna on one of the explosive devices. they're looking at the wife of the suspect tamerlan tsarnaev. how many different ways can dna get on a device like this? >> well it could be put there by somebody in the shop from which he bought it, i guess. it could be put by somebody who is handling it in some other way. or even, i guess, it could be put there by a victim of the bomb itself, in that the fragment may have connected with somebody, and left their dna on it. so there are various possibilities

>> the defense team representing the bombing suspect got a boost with the addition of judy clark , the lawyer who managed to get life sentences instead of the death penalty for clients like the uni bomber and the gunman that injured gabrielle giffords. back to you. >>> a rusted plane part could lead to bodies, more victims of the 9/11 attack back in 2001. the part you are seeing is believed to have belonged to one of the hijacked jets , the site is sifted for remains of the 3000 victims of the attack, remains 1000 people were never recovered. >>> father is dead killed in front of his children in what police say may have been a case of road rage. he was on his way home from a family gathering sat when he got in to a wreck in northeast baltimore. he got out to exchange insurance information when the other driver said he didn't have any and walked to his car. police say, he was shot in the back and killed and the family says what makes the crime more devastating his daughters were in the car and saw everything. >> his baby girl, she kept crying. any time she heard somebody say daddy, she

judy clark is joining the defense team. she was went life generals wash won life sentences. >>> she is accused of putting alcohol in orange juice containers at starbucks. they saw her take two orange juice bottles and place them on a store shelf. police used her license plate number and track her down and tests found the two orange juice containers contained robbing alcohol. >>> they are saying it will be illegal to report that they are immigrations and they are protecting workers from scams to protect them from owing mormon any than they can payoff to the contractors. they have gathered more than 27 of the locations. they came under attack last year when they announced they would begin using a program to scan immigration statuses. >>> they are redicing parking along poke street to give some residences some improvements. >>> sal, were you up until 1:40 in the morning there? >> i don't think so. that is around the time we wake up. >> good morning everybody, traffic is doing well around the bay area so far we are starting off

a lot of attorneys now, but among others, judy clark, she's just joins the team. represented defendants in some of the most high-profile death penalty cases in recent years, including the arizona mass shooter, jared loughner, atlanta olympic bomber eric rudolph and unabomber, ted kaczynski. all received life in prison instead of the death penalty. joe johns is working this part of the story. you're getting new information. i suspect by judy clarke coming in, that seems to be a signal they're going to do whatever they can to avoid the federal death sentence for this suspect, joe? >> reporter: that would certainly make sense, and obviously in death penalty cases that is generally the way the story goes, wolf. what we can tell you, though, is that we do know preliminary talks have been under way for a while, perhaps the last several days to -- between the justice department and the defense team to try to, at the very least, open up the door so the surviving suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, can actually restart conversations with investigators and obviously, as a part of t

the magistrate judge in the case has approved the addition of judy clark to tsarnaev's defense team. clark has a long history of working with high profile defendants. she has represented ted kaczynski, susan smith and jared loughner. tsarnaev has been charged with using a weapon of mass destruction in the april 15 blast which killed three people and injured more than 260 others. >>> federal and state inspectors say they plan to open a probe into the platinum magic carpet ride. the maryland bus company is facing more scrutiny after an accident in ohio. about a dozen new york city high school students were thrown from their seats when one of the company's charter buses overturned in columbus, ohio while returning from st. louis. fortunately no one suffered a serious injury. the cause of the crash is under investigation. the bus is operated by platinum magic carpet ride in waldorf, maryland. the man behind platinum once ran lydia bus tours which was closed down last year. >> they changed their colors. they're abc trucking company or bus company one day and xyz company the next day. >> t

. >>> well-known defense attorney judy clark is taking on suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev as a client now. she's worked with high profile defendants in the past like the uni bomber and shooting gunman jared laugner. >> the beta breakers is cracking down on what is allowed at the race. only be allowed to carry backpacks, bags or containers smaller than 8.5 by 11 by 4 inches. they will remove people not wearing an official race bib. the whacky costumes will still be allowed. and the race happens sunday may 19th. >> speaking on everything from the boston bombings to jason collins, president obama facing reporters today. >> daniel on what's at the top of his agenda for the second term. >> reporter: president obama stepped up to the podium in the white house briefing room to answer questions including developments in the boston marathon bombing case. >> based on what i've seen so far, the fbi performs its duties, did what it was supposed to be doing. but this is hard stuff. >> reporter: the president called on law makers to compromi and end the automatic budget cuts he says are hurting the amer

judy clark helped keep notorious criminals including the unabomber, to avoid death row. >>> vigil fore. the coroner determined that leila fowler died of multiple stab wounds. there is an intense search for a suspect in the killing, but no leads so far anyway. school mates made cards and hung ribbons in leila's memory, known for her bright smile and friendly manner. >>> police in western michigan say they have frustratingly little evidence as they continue their search for a 25-year-old gas station clerk. jessica herringa disappeared friday night as she was closing up shop. police began searching the lake michigan shoreline. friends and others spread out in a state park passing out information about her yesterday. jessica's fiance remains hopeful. >> jessica is going to come home. she's got to. there's no doubt in my mind. >> police are searching for a gray mini van that was parked near the station and the man who drove it. and they're also reviewing a dna sample found at the scene to see if it is evidence. >>> mechanical problems with air force 2 left the vice president's plane sittin

defense attorney judy clark has negotiated life sentences for several past clients including the unabomber, susan smith and others, sparing them the death penalty. dzhokhar was wounded in a shoot out and is now recovering. >>> new this morning, a deadly blast has rocked damascus for the second day in a row. state tv showed rows of damaged cars, smoke-filled streets where at least 13 were killed and 70 more injured. the prime minister narrowly escaped an assassination attempt on monday. >>> meanwhile, president obama is expressing concern that russian leader vladimir putin, after the reported use of chemical weapons in syria, the white house says use of such weapons would be a game changer, but the pentagon says it will not speculate on any intervention plans. >>> the faa is investigating a deadly mid-air collision of two small planes. the faa says a single-engine cessna landed on a golf course in southern california on monday after colliding with another cessna about eight miles north of ventura. all three on board that plane sustained only minor injuries. in the mountains northwest of san

judy clark is a san diego lawyer specializing in death penalty cases. she has won life sentences instead of the death penalty for unibomber ted kaczynski among others. the boston bombing investigation is focusing on new evidence found on one of the bombs and the widow of the bombing suspect tamerlan tsarnaev. bob orr reports. >> reporter: sources say female dna has been found on a fragment of one of the bombs used in boston. that could have come from a spectator in the crowd or maybe from a clerk who sold the bomb making materials but investigators say it's also possible it could have come from a female accomplice. katherine russell is not a suspect and has not been charged in the plot. but fbi agents met with russell at her parents' rhode island home to collect a dna sample. investigators will compare that against the dna found on the bomb remnants to determine if she ever came in contact with the device. russell's family has issued a statement saying they were shocked by the attack. investigators want to question russell to find out if she had any kno

. >> as for his brother, dzhokhar, judy clarke has joined the defense team and kept a number of criminals death row including the unabomber and susan smith. after talking to investigators dzhokhar is no longer cooperating with fbi. >>> brand-new video by "entertainment tonight" from tsarnaev's days as a boxer. tamerlan's body is still unclaimed at the medical examiner's office. >> boeing says a fragment believed to be have a hijacked 9/11 is from a plane. it's not far from the trade center site. the soil will be sifted later on today and will search for human remains. >>> mechanical problems with air force two has left the vice president's plane sitting on the tarmac in arizona. according to some reports when the jet landed and activated the reverse thrusters it sucked in debris. the vice president was never in any danger. he is back in washington. >>> retired supreme court justice sandra day o'connor is having second thoughts about the bush versus gore battle and says instead of handing george w. bush the presidency they should have said we're not going to take it. good-bye. at the end o

judy clark has successfully negotiated live sentence for past clients sparing them the death penalty. he was wounded in a shootout with police and is recovering from a prison hospital. >>> the faa is investigating a deadly mid-air collision of two small planes. alan ken its zen with the faa says a single engine cessna landed on a golf course on monday after colliding with another cessna eight miles northeast of ventura. all three aboard the plane sustained minor injuries. >>> in the mountains northwest of santa monica, firefighters combed through smoking wreckage of the second plane and recovered the pilot's body who was believed to be the only one on board >>> we are learning more about the secret shopping bags full of cash that the u.s. has been sending to afghan president, hamid karzai. that's taxpayer cash. nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell has been following this story. >> hamid karzai confirmed the cia has been dropping off bags of cash at the national security office for years. he says, it isn't millions. it is 30e7b8$00,0$300,000 a mon. that adds up

a request from dzhokhar tsarnaev's public defenders to add an experienced death penalty lawyer, judy clark of california, to his legal team. she most recently represented jared loughner, who pleaded guilty to the tucson shootings that wounded gabby giffords. in exchange the government did not seek the death penalty in that case. brian? >> pete williams starting us off from the d.c. newsroom tonight. pete, thanks. >>> throughout the past decade of deaths and injuries to americans fighting in afghanistan, including a cost to this nation of more than $600 billion, americans have been told our point man there is the popularly elected president hamid karzai, and we have been reassured he has u.s. interests at heart. well, that took a blow today when we woke up to the news that karzai has been receiving bags of cash from the cia among others. that would be u.s. taxpayer money. our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has been following this story and is also in the d.c. bureau tonight. andrea, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. somewhat incredibly hamid karzai today c

her name is judy clark. she represented nation's most notorious killer, unl that bomber, jared loughner, susan smith, the woman who drowned her children in south carolina. this many could as fox news learns that female dna was found on parts of the bomb that were recovered. fbi was at the family home of tamerlan's widow said to taken away evidence, bags of evidence, including some marked dna samples. phil mudd, former cia counterintelligence analyst out of memphis. good morning it you. >> good morning. bill: a lot we don't know clearly. let's work through this one at a time. is the wife now considered a suspect? how do you handle her? >> i don't think suspect is the word i would use. she is probably a person of interest. you want to know whether she was not only a participant in the plot, but i think the bigger question if she knew something was afoot even if she doesn't know there was conspiracy going on. bill: do you question her? i assume at great length, right? >> absolutely. she will want to have a lawy

this afternoon we learned that judy clarke will be joining zohar's defense team.e defend >> this is not the race to make a dramatic entry in the middle of the race. >> said the scope chief of police says his department will be stepping up his security measures by deploying uppe more officers. >> will be deploying them just as we did for the world series parade. folks will notice a larger presence. we will be replacing the trash cans with a knows you can see through. >> even security will not be enough to protect crawled up to 30,000. that's why he's encouraging those running and watching the race to keep their eyes open and to report anything suspicious. >> cannot do this at all without the participants and the city's help. we're all in this together and we're going to make the city safe. mandel >> dan kerman, kron 4 news prepare, > >> catherine: the dow gained 106 points. nasdaq up 28. s&p gained 11 points. >> please donate your miles to the make a wish foundation and i will see you later california. >> you can help other children by donating your unused miles. t

we learned veteran defense lawyer, judy clark is joining the team, representing dzhokhar tsarnaev, successfulved the unabomber, and other notorious criminals from the death penalty. brian ross has the latest on the investigation. >> give me a kiss. >> reporter: only a few months ago that dzhokhar tsarnaev posted hithis video on line. the 19-year-old is outside boston confined by himself to a tiny cell. a taste of what awaits him if convicted of the marathon bombings. he doesn't have a life. period. his total existence is going to be locked down. >> reporter: meantime, fbi agents are widening their net and looking for possible accomplices of the two brothers in the bombing. >> some may have been involved in helping build the bonds. others may have been involved in helping radicalize the brothers. >> reporter: fbi agents press catherine russell, the widow of elder brother tamerlan about her knowledge of her husband's activities. agents left her house carrying evidence bags. and she was seen leaving with her attorneys who said she did not know about the bomb plot. [ explosion ] and the investiga

judy clark is representing them and has won cases where many are facing death penalties. >>> as many people were killed in damascus syria. reporting from our washington d.c. newsroom, damascus is becoming a powerful target. >> reporter: according to state run television, take a look at this video we are just getting news of the blast. the explosion killed 18 people an injured 70. they are trying to take down president bashar al assad which increasingly have targeted damascus. this is after they had an assassination attempt and a car exploded near his convoy. he was not hurt but six people were killed. this as the united states continues to investigate the possible use of chemical weapons and how to respond if that is true. what defense secretary senator chuck hagel says when i see you next. >>> and involving a multibillion dollar bailout, lawmakers are expected to approve a $30 billion deal about the international fun last month. a lot of people are angry because under the deal, they will take major losses on their savings in that country's two largest banks. >>> we are learning more

a renowned the death penalty expert judy clarke has been approved by a federal judge to represent tsarnaeve republic federal defenders already assigned to the case. clark's clients have included the unabomber, susan smith, atlanta olympics bomber, and tucson arizona shooter. all received life sentences and said of the death penalty. joining me now, criminal defense attorney fox news contributor. great to have you. >> my world doesn't get any more poignant than this. that is as serious as it can ever get. lou: this woman has a remarkable track record. how did she get assigned to this case? >> look, we have a system of government where we want and in its ideal form we want people to be represented the best they possibly can, especially if they are facing the death penalty. we need to make sure all the t's are crossed demise are dotted because nobody, the prosecutor, judge, no one wants a miscarriage of justice. what judges do -- and i will be honest to you, i happened to my father and a high-profile case. the judge called him and asked intact as the public defender because i want to make sur

. >> eric: judy clashing, i believe -- judy clark, i believe she defended some evil people in america is broke before we came on air. the death dissipate still on the table. it has to be, we have to set an example and fry this guy and send a message around the world. that is really important thing. quickly on the welfare benefits, welfare for single mother, very poor individual not an able-bodied family and sons were very able-bodied. one was a boxer. eric, on the profiling, i don't think the president was saying that at all. to me it was academic liberal mumbo jumbo. we need to engage communities, like boston the most liberal city in america? its warped and twisted yad what they did? warped and twisted is robbing a liquor, it's jihad, it's radical islam. to me was making excuses. >> eric: i think you are miss -- >> they are not tied into any organization. >> how do we know. >> there is no indication so far. i will say this. the thing -- >> it's al-qaeda, its brand now. >> and the kids self-radicalized. what bothers me is the scholarship, the success the young people had in sports, i

with two well-known defense attorneys, with marine conrad public defender for three states and judy clark helped the uni bomb are avoid the death penalty and the deceased suspect, table -- tamerlan tsarnaev was in known contact with a known canadian terrorist. and he met in person with a militant recruiter at a mosque overseas. both men have since been killed by russian police. f.b.i. investigators are looking atrophy mail d.n.a. discovered on bomb fragments at scene of the boston marathon bombings. "new york times" reports agents took d.n.a. samples from tamerlan's widow during an interrogation. >> the calvaries county sheriff says the measure defer an 8-year-old girl in her home was an intentional attack. he and the family appeared at a news conference last night. abc7 news reporter kira klapper has the latest. >> the sheriff believes the killer went to the house with the intent to attack legally fowler. barney walters and krystal walters were unable to speak understandably. the eight-year-old died from shock and blood loss from multiple stab wounds. the murder weapon is not found and n

judy clark whose provous cases include unabomber ted kaczynski will join three perchedz. >> consideredxpert in death penalty. reduced client from death to life in prison. the brothers did not wipe or clear their computer hard drive in advance of the boston attacks, bret. >> bret: catherine, thank you. >> you are welcome. >> bret: trying to get abortion clinics to play by the rules. president obama and his opponents on the continuing game of political chicken. that is the sequester. where sleepless nights yield to restful sleep, and lunesta eszopiclone can help you get there, like it has for so many people before. do not take lunesta if you are allergic to anything in it. when taking lunesta, don't drive or operate machinery until you feel fully awake. walking, eating, driving or engaging in other activities while asleep without remembering it the next day have been reported. lunesta should not be taken together with alcohol. abnormal behaviors may include aggressiveness, agitation, hallucinations or confusion. in depressed patients, worsening of depression, including risk of suicide, m

judy clark. seq. with a ding go. roselyn smith.many other people that aren't here but i am thinking of them. we want them here with us and hopefully some day they will be. >> bill: i would like the three people you murdered to be here, too do you know what i mean? all right, gutfeld. good selection. this woman is off the chart let the columbia university. >> can i barely talk about this. she shouldn't be in columbia. she should be in a cemetery. she was involved in making bombs that killed three of her cohorts that were meant for our troops at a dance with their wives and girlfriends. they tried to kill our troops. awful. it's awful. >> bill: you have to get back to the pinhead of the week. associate dean. >> this is the woman who made the decision to bring in boudin, right? there she is. >> goes to show with you time everybody forgets evil. they let it -- nobody reads anymore. >> i don't think they forgot. i don't think they care. >> they don't care. you are absolutely right. they don't care. and it is disgusting. i don't know to

and high powered lawyer judy clark of san diego joining the team representing dzhokhar tsarnaev and represented union i bomber and loughner and others. clark secured life sentences for both of them rather than the death penalty. same thing with tsarnaev. doth >> well there is a lot of roas roasting going on today. spencer christian is here with a pretty steamy weather forecast. >> more roasting on the way da dan. temperatures are rising. humidity is low. and fire risk on the increase. accu-weather forecast coming. >> thanks also tonight. local coast guard members trade in the cutter for new set of wheels. coast to coast mission for america wounded vets. >> bay area residents were told to waste not want not for water. did they do too good a job and help wanted. won't believe where there is a shortage of pizza takers. stay why are 8 million people sleeping better tonight? they went to a sleep number store. the only place in the world you'll find the sleep number bed, with dual air technology. it allows each of you to adjust to the support your body needs. you'll only find sleep number at one of o

judy clarke has also joined the defense. she has represented several notorious criminals, including the unibomber and the man accused of shooting gabrielle giffords. >>> the boston area bombings raising concerns for security at san francisco's beta breakers race. no one will be allowed to run the course unless they have officially registered for the race. boston marathon had 25,000 runners. the beta breakers has even more show up. >> it is set for may 19th. >> can you believe we are one day away? according to the forecast, meteorologist, christina loren, some more high temps today. >> another hot one. good morning to you, jon and marla. good morning to you at home. i want to start with the good news. beautiful out there. mid-50s. more cloud cover on your drive to work. that is indicative of a little bit of an onshore floor that we picked up this morning. that's going to keep your temperatures down 3-5 degrees in some cases. not a lot of cloud cover here. this is the one place where we will likely be spared from the really st

judy clark.nwhile, investigators have found female dna on a fragment for one of the explosives set off at the boston marathon. could have come from a number of women including a possible accomplice. collected a dna sample from tamerlan tsarnaev's widow. >>> crews at the site of the bombing crash are hauling large slabs of concrete. >> the death is 386. but could reach 140 0. hundreds of workers were still in the building when it collapsed last wednesday. >>> today the queen of netherlands ended 33 year reign. signed the official add vocation at the royal palace in downtown amsterdam making her son the first dutch king in more than 100 years. he gripped his emotional mother's hand as they both signed the document. >> coming up, the nba makes a call on the future of the sacramento kings. >> history at the coliseum. the a's going into extra extra innings. >> those guys are just going to bed. as we count down to opening day, here's a look at the new bay bridge this morning. we'll be right back. ,, >>

she is judy clarke. she is represented arizona mass shooter jared lee loughner and also atlanta olympic park bomber eric rudolph and unabomber ted kaczynski, all of them escaped the death penalty. ashleigh banfield is here. you have new information from your blackberry from someone very high up. >> good thing they have judy clarke. let's just say that. she's renowned in legal circles as being the person who gets -- who saves your life that works on both sides. it saves the public a lot of money. it saves the public a lot of pain and suffering going through a trying trial, to do speak, the all the witnesses that have to relive what they have gone through all the people who lost limbs who would have to testify there are benefits to both sides if that's the case. they have been clear about two specific charges that this surviving alleged bomber is facing. that's just the beginning. you can always wait to see additional charges added to it. but the department has not gone so far as to say at this point seek

judy clark is joining his legal team.ph and tucson shooter jared loughner. she's credited with saving them all from the death penalty. joining me for tonight's law and disorder, attorneys gloria allred and thomas meserowe. i can't think of two finer legal minds to discuss what is a complicated issue. start with you, tom, if i may. this whole issue of miranda rights, from where i look at it, he's entitled to the same rights as any other american citizen. whether people like the fact he's an american citizen or not, he is an american citizen. >> well, i agree with that. however, we have to strike a balance between individual liberties and freedoms and national security problems. the fact that we're having so spirited a debate as this shows how great america is because we do protect individuals, we protect their liberty, their freedom, we protect everybody under the law as equal. by the same token, we're at war with terrorism so the question of how you get information without violating someone's civil liberties, not jeopardi

a request from dzhokhar tsarnaev's public defenders to add an experienced death penalty lawyer, judy clarkornia, to his legal team. she recently represented jared loughner. >> joining me from boston, nbc news national correspondent michael isikoff. thanks for joining me. how important is the new information about the female dna found on at least one of the bombs? >> i don't think we know yet. i think this is a sort of standard investigative technique the fbi would go through, as pete pointed out in the piece, it could have well have come from the employee where the pressure cookers were sold. the larger points is in many respects, the needle moved in this investigation. last week, the general tone you were getting from the fbi is it was these two guys, we found no evidence of any outside accomplices, no indication of ties to international terror groups. the case is moving towards rapid closure. i think now the tone and what you're hearing from investigators is somewhat different and somewhat nuanced. this is an open question. there are some large unanswered questions here, six months in ru