when his trial begins two years later, judy clark will lead the defense team. >> judy clark is a legendican criminal defense. this is a woman who is famous for taking impossible cases and not getting acquittals, but getting life sentences as opposed to death sentences, which is not an easy thing. >> as she was led into court, he was glancing over his right shoulder and smiling and smirking at his relatives behind him. i found that absolutely galling and reprehensible. >> judy clark got up there in the opening statement of the trial and said, it was him. those were her words. "it was him." this was obviously very strategic on the part of the defense. >> clark's strategy, don't fight the charges, fight the death penalty. >> the defense is trying to show mitigation. yes, he's guilty, but, consider the following about him. consider his alienation from american society. consider the malevolent influence of his older brother, which led him, inexorably to this crime. >> but the prosecution team isn't buying it. >> the prosecution said, they were equal partners. if you put bombs down on a stree

judy clark said yes he did it. but you know then it was all mitigating, mitigating. >> if he's not executed he will go to the adx supermax security prison, federal prison in colorado. i don't know if you guys have any background on that type of prison but you remember saying erika it is not club fed in any way shape or form. >> 23 i issue hours day. maximum security that is where ted is, and all of the worst people in the united states. >> how long if he gets death penalty? how long before we see that ham? >> years and years, and years. scott peterson. what was that back in 2002. still alive. >> appeal after appeal after appeal ineffect and counsel appeal. there will be trial appeals. there will be misconduct appeal. there will be jury and you know unappeals. >> an organization to come in, once that were totally against death penalty they'll help to get their lawyers involved so you'll have the most experienced appellate attorneys on this case trying to say -- >> money will not be an issue. >> on top of it what do

i was there when judy clarke basically pointed back to her client and said it was him.asked the jury to keep an open mind and she would explain to hopefully sentence him to life in prison clearly they did not. you talk about the defense, and while this verdict was being read, and all the different factors were being gone through, mirror yum conrad miriam conrad harks been there, shown some sort of kindness to him during the whole proceeding was furiously writing on a legal pad each time one of the sentences was read and the findings of the jury was read. so whether that suggests they plan to appeal but, boy, she was looking and -- i guess the way to characterize it jake is nobody quite knew what to feel in that court, and somebody just texted me very much that said it's over but i don't know what i want to happen. so whether they decide to appeal but they really didn't buy the tsarnaev defense team's argument that, in fact, this was all tamerlan that, in fact, if tamerlan had never been born this may never have happened. possibly it wouldn't have happened but they bough

when his trial begins two years later, judy clark will lead the defense team. >> judy clark is a legend criminal defense. this is a woman who is famous for taking impossible cases and not getting acquittals but getting life sentences as opposed to death sentences, which is not an easy thing. >> as he was led into court, he was smiling and smirking at his relatives behind him. i found that absolutely reprehenceable. >> she got up and said it was him. those were her words "it was him." this was obviously very strategic on the part of the defense. >> his strategy, don't fight the charges, fight the death penalty. >> the defense is trying to show mitigation. yes, he's guilty but consider the following about him, consider his alienation from american society, consider the malevolent influence of his older brother which led him to this crime. >> but the prosecution team isn't buying it. >> the prosecutor said they were equal partners. if you put bombs down on a street and shred the legs of insent men, women and children and then go into a store a half hour later and buy a half gallon of milk,

>> judy clark. well-known extremely successful on death cases. >> i have a question on judy clark but erica what have you learned? >> we are learning that the jury sentenced tsarnaev to death on at least 1-2-3 four five -- >> from what source? >> various news sources that are inside the courtroom at the moment. >> i want to source that properly. again your information, we're sourcing it as best we can, is the jury has come to what decision here? >> death on at least six counts.

judy clark is one of the best lawyers out there. really her strength is getting plea bargains before the trial in which the government agrees to life without patrol but here the prosecution was relentless from the attorney general on down at only going after the death penalty. so there will be a long appeal process. timothy mcvey, it took him four years to be executed. that was actually pretty quick. there are other people who have been on death row for 10 years, 20 years is not unheard of. it's not the beginning but not anywhere near the end of a long legal process. >> holly bailey, not berry as i mistakenly said, holly bailey and paul butler thank you both for your time tonight. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. >> we also have breaking news in the deadly train crash in philadelphia. the ntsb interviewed the train's engineer and two other employees today and say they will call in the fbi to review the damage. they say the engineer brandon bostian has been extremely cooperative but listen to how he described one of the employee stat

that was part of judy clarke's argument. if you put somebody in super max where they're virtually in a coffin 23 hours a day underground and they will never come up or have human contact with others, that's worse than death. a jury rejected that. although nowadays juries typically buy that and they accept it. it is true. whether that will have impact on a court of appeals is doubtful. they decide legal issues. but if the case does get reversed or some sort of legal issue, mainly under the government's thinking, they may go for death a second time. >> we have dzhokhar tsarnaev getting the death penalty today from that jury in boston. kent thanks for joining us. appreciate it very much. >>> and with 20 minutes left the dow is up a point. we'll have more "closing bell" after this. [ male announcer ] legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses. if you have a business idea, we have a personalized legal solution that's right for you. with easy step-by-step guidance, we're here to help you turn your dream into a reality. s

you know judy clarke who argued for the defense said there are answer we will never have as to why dzhokhardid this but she argued he never would have done it had it not been for his older brother. on the other hand, you know, the prosecution argued that he had a conscience of his own and you could tell by the things he wrote inside of the boat that night that he intended to do this. the prosecution said one other thing to mitigate people's concerns about he wanted to die a martyr. he said, he's not dying the way he wants to die. he's going to die the way he deserves to die. >> woodruff: we know dzhokhar tsarnaev, at least has been reported, throughout this trial has shown very little emotion or remorse about what happened. is it believed from talking to lawyers that that makes a difference as jurors decide on the sentence? >> well, as you can imagine, judge george o'toole who presided over the trial told the jurors they could not take that into consideration, a defendant's demeanor and actions in court had nothing to do with this, but it would be hard not to. the only motion he shared at a

this is the first time defense attorney judy clarke has lost a high-profile death penalty case. she negotiated plea deals that spared the lives of the unabomber ted kaczynski and jared loughner, who killed six people while attempting to assassinate congresswoman gabby giffords. clarke also persuaded a jury to reject a death sentence for susan smith who drowned her young sons. rikki kleiman is our cbs news legal analyst. rikki, the jury seemed to hang on the fact that the defendant showed no remorse. >> no remorse was in fact an aggravating factor. no remorse because he sat there stoically. he never shed a tear except once when his aunt talked about his childhood. so he felt sorry for himself but apparently t not feel anything about all those victims what he did to them creating double amputees, single amputees, as well as the death of four people. >> pelley: and because the death penalty has been imposed there will be an automatic appeal. >> indeed, there is an automatic appeal, although there will be a sentencing hearing formally within a couple of months. the appellate process

all this week long you have this lead defense attorney judy clark, and she's put family member after family member on the stand and acquaintances, looking to paint a softer almost child-like image of this convicted terrorist. one of the very high-profile witnesses the defense wants to put on the stand is this woman's sister. her story was the basis for the oscar-winning film "dead man walking" starring sean penn and susan sarandon. it's about a nun who comforts and eventually empathizes with a death row inmate and his victim's families. >> nobody can take that from you. you are a son of god. >> nobody ever called me a son of god before. >> she's gone on to become an advocate against capital punishment. with me now, anti-death penalty attorney and loyola university law professor bill quigley. professor, welcome. >> thank you. >> i know you are very very tight with her. you have followed her work. i just wanted to begin with tell me more about her. how did she grow to become such a staunch advocate for this? >> well she's always been a tremendous person. for the first couple of decades

defense attorney judy clark presented her closing arguments yesterday, asking the jury to choose lifeyes even for the boston marathon bomber. she once again blamed older brother tamerlan for outsized influence on his older brother. he would have never done it but for tamerlan. said life without release is knot lesser sentence but which tsarnaev receives no media attention, glory or stature. the government revisited carnage and suffering and injuries. the carjacking, the shootout in watertown. reminded jurors that tsarnaev written a note with his justification for killing innocent people. that americans needed to be punished for the deaths of muslims. he argued life would not be worse than death. that tsarnaev will have his own cell with a window. be able to have visitors and write letters. he said a death sentence is not giving him what he wants. it is giving him what he deserves. melissa. melissa: molly, thank you so much for that report. >> we all want what we can't have. for those blue bell fans, some can't stay away. new reports of people reselling the popular ice cream on craigsl

first high profile lost for judy clark hoping to spare her clients life. survivors and victims family members aren't calling it victory, instead, they are using words like relief. >> i don't know closure but i can tell you feels like weight has been lifted off my how older. >> up next a hearing in which the judge will impose the sentence, and survivors will be allowed to speak. marlie hall, cbs-3 "eyewitness news". >>> investigators are looking for a couple fearing they may have committed just an unspeakable crime. throwing a baby from a bridge. that story is out of king zesting this morning natasha brunn has more from police and the video at the center of this investigation. >> if you drop anything it won't move. >> fifty-eighth and kingsessing, credible witness claims to have seen a young couple intentionally drop a baby over the bridge friday morning. >> i don't believe anybody would do anything that hideous. >> she sees female holding or what she describes as cradling a babe nay white blanket. and says the babe's bright brown complected and fuzzy hair.

tsarnaev's attorneys including judy clark argued tsarnaev shouldn't be put on death row because he was under the influence of his older brother tamerlan. sister helen prejan told the jury she met with tsarnaev and "absolutely believes he is remorseful for his crimes" but the prosecution argued tsarnaev's writings show he was complicity in the bombing. >> the defendant claimed to be acting on behalf of all muslims. this was not a religious crime, and it certainly does not reflect true muslim beliefs. it was a political crime, designed to intimidate and to coerce the united states. the defendant was an adult who came to believe in an ideology of hate, and he expressed those beliefs by killing, maiming and mutilating innocent americans on patriots day. >> reporter: pamela brown, cnn, washington. >> the courtroom in boston was packed with people who survived the 2013 attack. 17 people lost limbs when the pressure cooker bombs exploded, sending bb pellets, nails and other shrapnel into the crowd. some of the survivors spoke to reporters outside the courthouse. >> there is nothing happy abou

. >> this was the first high profile lost for defense attorney judy clark hoping to spare her client's life. survivors and victims family members, aren't calling it victory, instead, they are using words like relief. >> i have to watch my two sons put a leg on every day. so i mean, i don't know if closure, but feels like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. >> up next, a hearing in which the judge will impose the sentence, and survivors will be allowed to speak. marlie hall, for cbs-3 "eyewitness news". >> investigators are looking for a couple fearing they may have committed an unspeakable crime throwing a baby from a bridge. the story is out of kingsessing, natasha brown has more from police, and the video at the center of the investigation. >> you can see possibly if you drop anything, it ain't going to move. >> neighbors revisit the rail bridge at 68th and kingsessing war credible witness claims to have seen a young couple intentionally drop ar the bridge friday morning. >> i don't believe anybody would do anything that hideous. >> sees the female holding what she describes a

i want to talk through some of these attorneys, especially very high-profile defense attorney judy clarke. knowing these jurors deliberated for 14 1/2 hours, today was day three, what is your gut reaction to that? >> that shows this jury has taken its job seriously. this is not a long deliberation. it has not been a long deliberation in the guilt phase. and it's not been a long deliberation in the penalty phase. as you've been hearing, as jean has read through all of these questions they have to answer it's a lot of questions. it's a lot of individual decisions they have to make. so 14 hours is not a very long time. the facts of this case are not really seriously in dispute. i think that's one reason why the jury deliberations moved along so quickly, because there really is no question. the defense conceded that dzhokhar tsarnaev committed this crime effectively. the only issue they have had to consider since day one is the ultimate issue, which is life or death. certainly they are setting the stage with all of these preliminary questions for a sentence of death, but remember they don't h

defense attorney judy clark tried to convince the jury that life in the bleak federal supermax prison would deny him martyrdom. that's a position trial observers disagree on. >> if he's a martyr and that's what he wanted, he doesn't deserve that. he hurt a lot of people and he deserve to say suffer. >> we have a death penalty for a reason so if there's ever a case which wants the death penalty, i mean this would be it. >> history is on the side of the defense here. there has not been an execution in massachusetts since 1947, and it's been illegal there since 1984. even if a single juror votes against death for the boston bomber tsarnaev will get a life sentence in federal supermax prison in colorado. >> ok, thank you. >> dozens of killed at a fire at a shoe factory. why officials in the philippines worry the number of victims will only continue to grow. >> no campus, no classes the ivy league education entirely on line that some hope will catch on. just because i'm away from my desk doesn't mean i'm not working. comcast business understands that. their wifi isn't just fast near the ro

also something to keep in mind here tsarnaev's defense attorney judy clark so much at stake, she reallymao sawvy and susan smith who drowned her two young sons strapped in the seat. ultimately up to these jurors now. they've come to a decision. weep in mind again, this decision must be unanimous for tsarnaev to face the death penalty. we understand also from our reporting from ronan farrow that the jurors, it's not just talking and muling this decision and really delving into it they have an extensive 24, 25-page juror sheet that they've got to go through. we know some questions have been asked aiding and abetting. >> i'm thumbing through that penalty phase, the information you just talked about there. i want to bring in ari melber and ron nan farrow standing outside the courthouse there. among the things that the 18 jurors will consider in determining whether he should live or die, the age of the defendant. what else will they be considering? >> they will be considering as you've mentioned under the penalty documents that they have been basically presented to by court an itemized look

. >> judy thank you keeling clark harvey milk school. >> i got into teaching by being a community memberd to spend my life doing something it help other people. when you take a child there's the little things that come up that's my philosophy you want them to have a free roll but give them guidance and barriers. my teaching philosophical is lots of patience and pushing kids to be better >> congratulations kelly (clapping) our next recipient award is deanna chavez 7th grade (clapping.) i like to think of might have that gives tough love to students i helping hold them accountability to reach higher and higher process i'm also having in my heart and offer them love and support. and in terms of the academic style i want them to be independent and help them and provide them with tools to go and analysis and investigate on their own and feel successful i think the key is having a lot of patience and participation >> (clapping.) and last but not least our high school teacher of the year michael spur ran. >> i'm in a certain stage bending by the time i am done teaching i follow them through hig

his attorney judy clark, this is the first time she has not been able to spare someone's life heat least in the trial phase. so no doubt she or whomever is designed to do his appeals will be fighting very hard to get this overturned. >> do we know the circumstances in prison under which he will live? it was widely discussed with life in prison, he'd be in a solitary confinement basically a cell block where he would only get an hour a day to communicate with anybody else. is it the same type of thing on dwet row? >> they only talked about that very briefly because the focus was really on the adx prison, the super max prison in colorado and the conditions there and whether that was the right thing to do. whether that was the worst punishment punishment punishment. but we presume he would be headed to death row in terre haute. but we just don't know what those conditions are. at the least not based on what was testified about in this trial. >> all right. something we'll likely find out the next time he appears in court. thank you so much. appreciate your insights. >>> still ahead, how much

clark. >> a lot of wigs. >>> also, why did judge judy make an emotional cross-country journey for this girl's graduation? >> i kind of thought i was going to cry.

music icon judy collins intimately knows the tragedy of depression and suicide. her son clarkled himself when he was 33, and she tried suicide when she was a teenager. i spoke with collins this week about how she's trying to change minds. first of all i've been also a sufferer of depression, and i know that that was really what put me over the edge as a teenager. i didn't know what it was, and there was a lot of anger. there was a lot of frustration. there was a lot of perfectionism perfectionism, which went into it. and then, of course, after i tried, nobody ever mentioned it again. i think there was one conversation, and that was the end of it. as though i were well cured, when actually if you survive a suicide attempt i think it's just the beginning of a lifetime of at least awareness and struggle. but when i got to new york city in 1963 and moved there i got straight into therapy. and i always say that i got into therapy because it was in the lease, but that's to make a joke of it. i needed to talk about this. and i talked about this for years. >> did it help? >> of course

the honorable judy chu, the honorable clarke honorable cleaver, honor clyburn, honorable cohen honorable cohen -- these are the people on the mission of mercy. these are the people who are on h.r. 2033, a bill designed to help people stay in this country and not go back into harm's way to nepal. and by the way, this bill would impact about 10,000 to 25,000 people. it is difficult to count but estimate at best, the number of people who might benefit. i said the honorable conyers. honorable joseph scrollly, the honorable danny davis, the honorable delaney, the honorable delbene, the honorable duckworth. honorable ellison honorable fudge, honorable grayson, honorable gene green, honorable gridge -- grijalva. this is not the first time that we have had temporary status granted to other countries. it was done under the clinton administration and for nicaragua following a hurricane as well as in honduras. it was done with the bush administration for el salvador, done for the obama administration for those who suffered from an earthquake in haiti. these are some of the people who are part of th

suicide by 2025 by joining our cause and come see judy collins at the organization of american states from 6:30-9:30 and she will tell more about her story, clarkand her battle. it is going to be an intimate evening. >> afsp.org is the website for more information. thank you both for the conversation. >> thank you for take the time to have us here and all of the viewers who called. >> they are awesome. >> c-span2 providing live coverage of the senate floor. and every weekend, booktv now for 15 years, the only television network devoted to non fiction book and authors. c-span2 created by the cable industry and brought to you as a local service by your cable or satellite provider. watch us on hd. like us on facebook and follow us on twitter. >> a discussion about global risks with tony blare, lindsay grahm and japan's prim minister. they challenge oklahoma's method of legal injection and ashton carter discusses sexual assault in the military and a talk with britain's head political parties ahead of the elections. now a discussion about global risks with senator lindsay grahm, tony blare, and japanese leader discuss isis russia's