it was misused by michael gordon and judy miller in the buildup to the war in iraq.nd it is a terrible stain on "the new york times," which is flawed as all institutions are flawed. but then there are also many examples where i think it has been used correctly to the betterment of our common good and to the society at large. >> i would say there is also -- i would defend a lot of feature writing as well. i think if you are writing about children, in a lot of cases i mean if it is a child who has some kind of mental disability we did a story in the magazine about a high school, junior high school kid who was a cross-dresser and nobody in the school knew he was a cross-dresser. it was an interesting feature stories that said about what was then kind of an evolving phenomenon. if we had named that kid, he would have been lynched in his middle school. i mean, it was that or no story. what the times does, however, even though they will disguise and name in feature writing and news reporting, you are never allowed to use anything that is not in some way accurate. if we don

at the new america foundation and writer and "fox news" contributor, judy miller. i am jon scott.x news watch" is on right now. >> isn't worth noting that a strong majority of americans still favor a public insurance option of the sort i propose tonight. but, its impact should not be exaggerated by the left or the right or the media. it is only one part of my plan heard and should not be used as a handy excuse for the usual washington ideological battles. >> president obama giving a speech on health care reform. this is the 28th of this presidency. it got going reports from the democrats but there was left-leaning media saying the president failed to honestly answer all questions about an overhaul. the new york times specifically saying the president was not forthcoming about actual policy changes. cuts to medicare and abortion funding. all tied to the democratic bills. rich, even after the speech, the polls indicate at least half of the citizens of this country have some serious questions about his health care bill. are those questions being reflected in mainstream media? >> now,

jay thomas radio talk show host and judi miller former "new york times" journalist.heard from susan rice, the united states ambassador to the u.n. and she said that basically president obama will not sit down with either one of these leaders while he is there. judy miller, he said when he campaigned that he would meet with the iranian leader without preconditions. apparently that meeting is going to happen next week instead. >> i think it would be a little embarrassing to meet. perhaps they will pass each other on that escalator that you have been showing on the air. this is not the time for that kind of presentation. it would be very awkward at this point especially given moammar kadafi's receipt of the hero the slaughter of all the people on the panam flight. this is not the moment for that. what is he going to do is administer tough love. that is he is going to say if you are complaining about the united states being unilateralists? here we are willing to outstretch our hand. now this is what we want back. >> that's tough love? >> that's tough love. gretchen: does