reporter judy miller for credulous reporting that she did that helped lead us into war in fact it wasn't fox news that led us to war more than any other media outlet in the united states it was the new york times that led us to war but michael gordon another palace court journalist he just by palace court i mean somebody who just he basically neal's before power and repeats what they tell him and michael gordon had written several of those same offending articles with judy miller and he's still there talking as a matter of fact about iran nuclear weapons program nobody knows for sure if they have one he's writing about it as a matter of fact this is a big problem because our biggest media the media that is most important for shaping opinion is still not getting things right or being careful enough they're still basically slaves to power in the u.s. that means basically governments and corporations and if i go to jeff i mean i don't want to ask you to be a foreign policy expert here ok but if we just put her. ok do you think. the blog sphere is mature enough that if the right wanted to go

needs to know so this weekend i don't always agree with the new york times there are people like judy miller who i think did bad reporting it's a good thing that judy miller militant which is to stand of the government and say i will not review my sources we can leaks you can criticize we can leak for revealing the names of people in afghanistan but in the case of the iraq war logs they made it very sure that not one person's name in those logs so and this time around they also you know that they have a journalist who is the guardian did in fact give the documents to the government to tell them what they wanted. you know too reductive so for thought thank you so much for joining us welcome thank you. well even if the legal community starts working side by side with the government rather than questioning it at least we always have the real government watch talk to a whole transparency the media right well not so much in fact the majority of media pundits have not only criticized weiqi leaks and leakers in general and supported the d.o.j. leading an investigation they've turned quite vicious t