i'll ask judy roland to grab the dimensions. >> my name is judy roland, i'm the project manage /-r. r. the lower box that was shown -- i believe they were depicting the bbu /pwhrobgs. box. the dimensions on that box are 27 inches high. it has to be a minimum 17 feet from the street -- if it's on the street side of the pole and has to clear, like, high profile vehicles that would come up the street. >> how many feet? >> 17 feet above the ground. if we turn it the other way, we could turn it the other way, but we are limited to how close we can be to the existing utilities on the pole. >> in one of our previous hearings i recall there was some discussion, and it may not have been your company, but one of the other companies that the technology is changing a little bit in terms of some of the equipment getting a little smaller and thinner. is this the thinnest equipment that you can provide? >> this is the only technology that's available to us that's vast technology that does what we need it to as far as the frequencies, the capacity that -- to carry at /t*rbg's service. we actually l