amy: we will speak with technology journalist julia angwin. then "bootstrapped: liberating ourselves from the american dream." we will talk to author alissa quart who runs economic hardship reporting project. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. in mexico, hundreds of asylum seekers gathered in ciudad juarez tuesday demanding justice after at least people were 38 killed during a fire at an immigration detention center near the border with el paso, texas. over two dozen others were seriously injured. the blaze monday broke out after dozens of migrants set their mattresses on fire protesting their deportations, as well as abusive and inhumane conditions at the overcrowded jail run by mexico's national migration institute. surveillance footage released tuesday shows guards quickly walking away when the fire started, making no attempt to release the migrants as flames and smoke engulfed their cell. at least 28 of the victims were from guatemala, according to officials

julia angwin is an investigative journalist and contributing opinion writer for the new york times. she's also the founder of the markup and outlet that investigates the impact of technology on society. thanks for being with us, julia, it's good to see you. it's great to be here. okay so this was one of those congressional hearings. when you know the farmer and the ranch. we can be friends, republicans and democrats can put their animosity for one another. it's on hold and beat up on third party like the ceo, ticktock and clearly, chinese. tiktok is just an american. his republican congresswoman, cathy mcmorris, mcmorris, rodgers. we do not trust tiktok will ever embrace american values. values for freedom, human rights and innovation. tiktok has repeatedly chosen the path for more control, more surveillance and more manipulation. your platform should be banned. embracing american values. is this a new litmus test? i guess for foreign companies to be allowed access to the u. s market. but did it seem to you that lawmakers were having kind of a trouble nailing down their security con