professor julia azari? is hard to. a pretty good diagnosis of what happened in 2016. it's useful i to note we aren't that far off in terms of the national popular vote but they failed to capture what went on in wisconsin and where the is coming from michigan and pennsylvania with the electoral college strategy andra having to starkly to unpopular candidates is a recipe for the dynamics the callerte describes. what this potentially happened at this pointha is what drives people to vote if they may or mayig not be inclined as they perceive the two candidates in that they care about those differences. i think over the course of time probably those feelings have heightened somewhat and they are people who may not have voted in 2016 because of the polls and they thought the election was foretold in the stars and clinton was opposite going to win regardless of which candidate they may have leaned toward a didn't come out in both. the lesson and 2016 and 2024 that matter matters their presidential elections are very closely fought in a handful of swing states. i think that m

host: julia azari, what is it that is in the water in wisconsin?0, 1968, the last couple of elections, it has been very close. robert la follette. what is it about politics in wisconsin? guest: it is a really interesting question. there are two things going on and one is the bipartisan progressive tradition that is rooted in -- you mentioned la follette. it is rooted in this idea of holding the powerful to account. it is a bit of a populist tradition, rooted in these foundational ideas of good government and public service and up to recent history of wisconsin, it is why it has been so close, a lot of undecided and people in the middle and independent political thinking. that has changed a little bit and i have seen data presented by charles franklin, our resident pollster and his team. now wisconsin is very close because you have a lot of committed partisans. you have deep blue milwaukee and dane county and a couple other spots in the state, and increasingly deep red areas throughout the rest of the state. it has become a place where now it is a s

influence on voters than the debates, says a professor of political science at marquette university julia azari. the latest research in political science about what events affect the willingness to vote, and which, by the way, is becoming increasingly accurate in predicting how people will vote in november, shows that party conventions matter. after the debate, the biden campaign held a conference call with members of the democratic national committee regarding the upcoming convention. some committee members told the associated press that this was too rosy an assessment of biden's path to re-election, criticizing the impact of the debate on the results were largely ignored. andriy borys, scott stearns, voice of america. in the first round of the parliamentary elections in france , the far-right national union party won. according to preliminary estimates published on the website of the ministry of the interior of france, she won almost 30% of the vote. the new people's front coalition took second place, and the centrist alliance of president macron came in third. the national union party was fo