julia bullock thank you so much. really appreciate your time. >> thank you so much. >> coming up, presidents under pressure. next, the fallout following a congressional hearing with presidents of some of the top universities in the nation who face tough questions about anti semitism on campus. we'll dig into the complexity of the issue but we're just getting started. everything going well? oh yeah. let's take a look at this knee. because it's the work behind the scenes, that truly matters. [ physical therapy staff discusses results ] for your mind. for your body. and for the community. -team! for all that is me, for all that is you. kaiser permanente. investigating anti-semitism on campus triggered by the israel hamas war. one mega donor to the university of pennsylvania has threatened to pull $100 million if president liz mcgill does not resign. this after her much criticized exchange with republican elise stefanik from new york. >> ms. mcgill at penn does calling for the genocide of jews violate penn's rules or cod