julia coronado and eric freedman with us.erson institute for their founder, a perfect morning to speak to fred burstyn. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ tom: bloomberg "surveillance." chart, we do this with julia coronado and eric freedman. the statef the year, of the union, the summation of the fiscal deficit of -- to gdp and trade deficit to gdp. president trump wants to be reagan. 1980's, uglyn the sum total under 6%. this vector is moving in the wrong direction. julia: that is unfortunately one of the side effects of the stimulus the president was not expecting. tom: an economic miracle. julia: when the u.s. is stronger, the deficit widens. that is what we are seeing, and that will probably continue. the u.s. has some stimulus in the pipeline and we will be a relative outperform or from a macro standpoint. that will keep pushing the deficit wider. tom: what are u.s. bank abouters, do they care the deficit and deficit to gdp? eric: not until it shows up in the 10 year. when the marginal owner says -- tom: is that a yield price up, b