let's get the view from both sides now julia gumbel on uganda he's in the capital kampala. africa good to see you both janice i think maybe start with you i mean we're talking about a border that's been closed since about february i'm just give us a sense of just how bad things have gotten on the ground and when that border will actually open. we know the progress has been signed it's been great for the people in uganda for the people in rwanda but this is great most especially for the cross border trade does and the people that survive and the business of. the people who might makes you use an old out there really look forward to this border being open any time soon otherwise it's been really tight for the business for 6 months you can imagine what that means to the trade does what that means to the trucks for supplies and. really tight for the looking forward to seeing this really. right fred i'll come to you now i mean so you know we have the signing ceremony we saw the 2 need is almost touch. but show me it doesn't mean that all the problems are solved. yeah definitely