let's go now to dw's julia hahn following the story for us in istanbul. good evening to you, julia.clipsing these bilateral talks is this countdown to this major offensive in idlib, home to three million people. i mean, the two men, what have they said about this impending military campaign? julia: when it comes t to the current situation in syriaia in ididlib, the twowo ministers are basically on the same page. they agree that a major offensive on idlib has t to be prevented, as you alalready mentioned,d, becauause it couldd to what they call a humanitarian catastrophphe. millions of civilian lives arere atat risk, andnd turkey, especi, fears another wawave of refuge trying to cross itits border tuturkey alreadydy hosts more tn three million refufugees from syria. this number r could go up p by another r million or e even re,o this would be e a huge finanancl burden for turkey. so i guess he was not happy to hear the german minister sayay that berlin is considedering to boost its humanitarian assistance to countries like turkey, should such an offensive really happen. brent: the tu